[BNU] Re: Spanish Accent Marks

  • From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: anthony <aluis.rivera25@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 22:29:35 -0400

I learned it by looking up everything in the unicode tables. What also helped a 
lot was writing common symbols (numbers, punctuation, and so on) in a braille 
file, then translating it to computer braille. That way, I knew what I was 
looking at and could figure out what the new symbols meant since I knew the 
grade 2 equivalents.
On May 8, 2013, at 8:31 PM, anthony <aluis.rivera25@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> hey guys* is there a way to see the spanish braille code and learn it or do 
> you all ready have to know it
> 
> i just changed my settings to spanish braille
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx
> To: anthony <aluis.rivera25@xxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Wed, 8 May 2013 14:46:23 -0400
> Subject: Re: [BNU] Spanish Accent Marks
> 
> You'd go to options, braille options, computer braille table, and cycle 
> through until you find Spanish. If you want 8 dot braille, which I recommend 
> for Spanish, you'd have to change the "6 or 8 dot" setting in both braille 
> options and keyboard settings. Remember that, with 8 dot enabled, commands 
> that use backspace and/or enter with a character require the spacebar as 
> well, so a new line is space-enter, volume up is space-enter-4, and so forth.
> On May 7, 2013, at 7:34 PM, anthony <aluis.rivera25@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> how do i change my code to spanish computer braille?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aine Kelly-Costello <ainekc@xxxxxxxxx
> To: mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Wed, 08 May 2013 07:50:21 +1200
> Subject: [BNU] Re: Spanish Accent Marks
> 
> Spanish computer braille works, yes, but I personally steer clear
> of it for the following reasons:
> 
> * Spanish computer braille has its own set of punctuation, so
> you'd need to learn at least some of that.
> * Switching codes is an absolute pain (if you're like me and
> interchange writing in English and Spanish reasonably regularly,
> eg on a web page you'll almost certainly want English computer
> braille
> * If you want to edit with speech, the keynote gold synthesizer
> speaks very, very slowly in Spanish and you can't change it, and
> the eloquence one lags too much for my liking to be honest
> although it is usable
> * I find it odd that the Spanish accented characters display with
> the dot 8 on the bottom, although you could reconfigure that if
> you wanted to
> 
> Just some thoughts ...  I've done Spanish for 6 years on the BN
> now and can say that assigning macrons in the unicode tables (and
> also display combinations, let me know if you want help with
> that) works well, as does the English grade 2 option.  One thing
> to be aware of in grade 2 is that every now and again (there must
> be a pattern but I'm not sure what it is), the BN seems to decide
> you want a grave accent instead of an acute one, which goes the
> other way ...  But that's usually never an issue.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx
> To: kskristen@xxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Tue, 7 May 2013 13:51:29 -0400
> Subject: [BNU] Re: Spanish Accent Marks
> 
> A couple other options include using UEB (not adviseable since it
> can be tedious to switch codes) or Spanish computer braille.  Once
> you know that code, it isn't hard to use, but it only works in
> text files, not braille ones.  Also, it does take some getting
> used to, but all the Spanish accents and punctuation are there.
> The main catch is that you'd have to use 8-dot mode to get all
> the advantages, which takes yet more getting used to.  Trying the
> dot 4 before a letter in grade 2 might be your best bet, but
> there are a few more possibilities for you to ponder.  Good luck
> on the test.
> On May 7, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Kristen Steele <kskristen@xxxxxxxxx
> wrote:
> 
> JJ,
> 
> Yes, there are two ways, depending on what kind of document you
> are using:
> (1) For a KeyWord file (which I think is easiest to do Spanish),
> just type a dot 4 before the letter on which you want an accent.
> (2) (This way is a little harder but doable.) In a MS Word doc,
> go to the unicode characters menu with backspace-3-5.  Then, type
> the letter that needs an accent, followed by acute (or tilde for
> ñ).
> 
> Btw, there's an article on accents on the BNU site that may be
> helpful.
> 
> Hth :)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: johnnie Jean duran <johnniejduran@xxxxxxxxx
> To: Braille Note User List <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Tue, 7 May 2013 11:10:10 -0600
> Subject: [BNU] Spanish Accent Marks
> 
> Hi y'all,
> I was just wondering if there was a way to do accent marks for
> spanish
> using the braillenote apex BT 32.  I have a test coming up, and I
> need
> to use propper accent marks.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
> Thanks,
> JJ
> 
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> Lakewood, Colorado
> United States
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Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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