[BNU] Re: Spanish Accent Marks

  • From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Aine Kelly-Costello <ainekc@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 14:51:19 -0400

I just got so used to Spanish braille that I switched to it exclusively for 
years, until UEB came along. It's really not bad once you get the new symbols 
down, and within a month I was typing in it with no trouble even for English. I 
took over five years of Spanish, so I have experience here as well. ,smile> 
Everyone has their own preference, and I'm not suggesting that computer braille 
will work better than any other solution. I'm just saying that getting used to 
its symbols is really not bad if you do decide to go that route.
On May 7, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Aine Kelly-Costello <ainekc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Spanish computer braille works, yes, but I personally steer clear of it for 
> the following reasons:
> 
> * Spanish computer braille has its own set of punctuation, so you'd need to 
> learn at least some of that.
> * Switching codes is an absolute pain (if you're like me and interchange 
> writing in English and Spanish reasonably regularly, eg on a web page you'll 
> almost certainly want English computer braille
> * If you want to edit with speech, the keynote gold synthesizer speaks very, 
> very slowly in Spanish and you can't change it, and the eloquence one lags 
> too much for my liking to be honest although it is usable
> * I find it odd that the Spanish accented characters display with the dot 8 
> on the bottom, although you could reconfigure that if you wanted to
> 
> Just some thoughts ... I've done Spanish for 6 years on the BN now and can 
> say that assigning macrons in the unicode tables (and also display 
> combinations, let me know if you want help with that) works well, as does the 
> English grade 2 option. One thing to be aware of in grade 2 is that every now 
> and again (there must be a pattern but I'm not sure what it is), the BN seems 
> to decide you want a grave accent instead of an acute one, which goes the 
> other way ... But that's usually never an issue.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx
> To: kskristen@xxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Tue, 7 May 2013 13:51:29 -0400
> Subject: [BNU] Re: Spanish Accent Marks
> 
> A couple other options include using UEB (not adviseable since it can be 
> tedious to switch codes) or Spanish computer braille. Once you know that 
> code, it isn't hard to use, but it only works in text files, not braille 
> ones. Also, it does take some getting used to, but all the Spanish accents 
> and punctuation are there. The main catch is that you'd have to use 8-dot 
> mode to get all the advantages, which takes yet more getting used to. Trying 
> the dot 4 before a letter in grade 2 might be your best bet, but there are a 
> few more possibilities for you to ponder. Good luck on the test.
> On May 7, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Kristen Steele <kskristen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> JJ,
> 
> Yes, there are two ways, depending on what kind of document you are using:
> (1) For a KeyWord file (which I think is easiest to do Spanish), just type a 
> dot 4 before the letter on which you want an accent.
> (2) (This way is a little harder but doable.) In a MS Word doc, go to the 
> unicode characters menu with backspace-3-5. Then, type the letter that needs 
> an accent, followed by acute (or tilde for ñ).
> 
> Btw, there's an article on accents on the BNU site that may be helpful.
> 
> Hth :)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: johnnie Jean duran <johnniejduran@xxxxxxxxx
> To: Braille Note User List <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Tue, 7 May 2013 11:10:10 -0600
> Subject: [BNU] Spanish Accent Marks
> 
> Hi y'all,
> I was just wondering if there was a way to do accent marks for spanish
> using the braillenote apex BT 32. I have a test coming up, and I need
> to use propper accent marks.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
> Thanks,
> JJ
> 
> --
> Ms. Johnnie Jean Duran
> Seventh Grade student at O,Connell Middle school
> Lakewood, Colorado
> United States
> Member of the National Federation Of The Blind
> Board member of the Colorado Association Of Blind Students (CABS)
> Main Admin And Founder of: http://www.jjsnet.motribe.mobi
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> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx
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Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx



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