[bksvol-discuss] Re: apostrophe as single quote

  • From: "Westmoreland, J. R." <jr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:12:56 -0700

Are you making a comment of something said in this thread or an
observation in general? I was not able to tell for sure since there was
not part or whole of any other message.
 
J. R.
 
 

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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sarah Van
Oosterwijck
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:21 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: apostrophe as single quote


Ah sighted people, smile> Especially the not particularly computer
literate ones, can really cause more confusion then good when asked
about characters you wish to create or eliminate from electronic
documents. <smile>  I'm not really criticizing them, since they just
don't happen to know much about the topic, but I'm warning you that
their advice can not always be trusted.  Kurzweil and to some degree
your screen reader, knows much more about the document than can be
learned by a sighted person looking at the printed characters on the
screen or in the book.  They are kind of like that plastic or wax food
they see in pictures in the menus they consult and then announce, "Mmm,
that looks so good, I think I'll have that." I'd find it so hilarious if
they were actually brought the prop material that was actually used in
the picture. LOL
 
The accent mark on the key above the tab is not the slightest bit
related to an apostrophe or a single quote.  It just happens to be a
mark that curves in the same direction as an apostrophe.  Sighted people
also have no problems with closing single quotes and apostrophes being
used interchangeably because they really do look the same, but as you
have already learned they are not always the best thing for the
electronic copy of the book, because they are really different
characters and will not necessarily be read or transcribed correctly.
Why not just select the offensive character and copy it to the
clipboard.  Paste it in the find box and replace all of them with an
apostrophe.  If for some reason you don't like that plan then you can
produce a single close quote at will by pressing and holding down the
alt key while typing the number 0146 on the numb-pad.  Kurzweil will
call it close single quote, so you will know it is correct.  JAWS and
open book users won't be informed of the difference between the
characters, so only the character number can warn you of the difference
as apostrophe is character 39 not character 146.  It's useful that JAWS
doesn't differentiate while reading a file, but it isn't so good that
Open Book decides to use them interchangeably like Word.
 
If anyone has more questions about character problems then please go to
Jake's tip page and read the tip I submitted about potential problem
characters.  The information can also be quite useful to people who
transfer documents to a note taker for reading in braille, since the
same characters often cause issues for them.
 
I really want to make a Word macro for fixing up documents for transfer
to my BrailleNote, but I've lost every macro I've ever made for Word, so
I'm not too enthused about the prospect.
 
Sarah Van Oosterwijck
Assistive Technology Trainer
http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity

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