[procps] Re: w and "make check"
- From: Alfredo Esteban <aedelatorre@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: procps@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 01:05:45 +0200
2012/6/30 Mike Frysinger <vapier@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> On Saturday 30 June 2012 05:59:50 Alfredo Esteban wrote:
>> 2012/6/30 Mike Frysinger <vapier@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> > why not just run the tests in LC_ALL=C ?
>>
>> This change fix the problem when running dejagnu test but
>> inconsistency in Spanish speaker systems persists.
>
> the point is to make the tests stable and allow for the debate as to the
> expected output in other locales to continue in parallel. the tests are for
> functionality, not making sure localizations stay up to date.
>
I think there was a misunderstanding. I'm not against setting locale
to "C" in dejagnu test. I just said it wasn't enough.
>> All the text is English and it makes no sense to have two different decimal
>> marks.
>
> lack of contributed translation for strings is not a valid reason for
> disabling localization everywhere. the correct answer is to fix the missing
> translation strings. feel free to contribute some.
>
Probably. My proposition was temporary, until output was translated.
>> It is confusing for us also because comma is used as value separator:
>
> i have no opinion as to the format of the numbers, but it sounds like you're
> making sweeping generalizations here. since i don't live in an area that
> localizes this way, i don't know what the expectation is.
I'm sure that every Spanish speaker who is able to understand "w"
output is able to understand a number with dot as decimal mark.
Influence of English standard is very strong (think about calculators,
for example). In fact, there are already numbers like this in current
w output... Anyway, I understand that my solution is not elegant so I
won't insist on it.
However, even if we translate strings, there is a problem with "load
average" in Spanish, French, German, etc:
load average: 0,67, 0,63, 0,51
Using comma for both separating number and decimal mark is confusing.
I think we could use another character as separator. What do you think
about semicolon, dash or two blanks? If you agree I would write the
patch for whattime.c and dejagnu test files (it would affect top,
uptime, w ...). Craig, would you commit this patch?
Alfredo
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