>> Bottomline, it is here to stay (most of OTN runs on it), give it a shot, it is really simple. Btw, AskTom runs on HTML DB as well. PHP is good but if you are a simple (!) PL/SQL programmer, stick with HTML DB. Personally, this is a very good product which has not been given the right amount of publicity/support. If you have applications that require simple data in/data out in small quantities, it is a great tool. John Kanagaraj