Nigel and list, Yes, good point; it does appear that Freedom Scientific is now the likely copyright owner. I've contacted their legal counsel earlier today, to find out whether they did in fact acquire the rights. If so, I'll be pursuing permissions as planned, to distribute the training manuals in electronic format free-of-charge for educational purposes of teaching and learning the Optacon. I'll let the list know how that develops. --Robert Englebretson To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.