Did not Blazie Engineering acquire the rights to all things Optacon? I would expect that that would include documentation. That would mean that the rights to such material would now belong to Freedom Scientific even though I doubt that they are aware of its existence. Nigel Pentronics 33B Sheppard Road EMU PLAINS NSW 2750 AUSTRALIA PO Box 965 PENRITH NSW 2751 Tel. +612 4735 7355 e-mail service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx web. www.pentronics.com.au -----Original Message----- From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Englebretson Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 12:44 AM To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Stuff from Housecleaning Dear All, As offered, I'm still willing to make PDF's of these manuals so that others can have access to them for training purposes. I think this is crucial, since the hardcopies are no longer available anywhere, and there is currently no other pedagogically-designed way for new users to learn the Optacon. So I'll send Jim my mailing address off-list--unless there are objections, or unless someone else happens to have more-pristine copies of these manuals that they would like me to use instead. I'll also check into the issue of permissions; I'm not actually sure what happens to copyrights once the corporate holder no longer exists such as the case with TSI... Best, --Robert Englebretson To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.