Speaking of reading through glass, that reminds me of my work at the Pentagon. I was a computer programmer and vice president of a small company that contracted to design, program, test, and impliment a system for them. At first they weren't sure they'd let me use my optacon. I'm not sure what they thought it would do, but they were afraid it would broadcast some sort of signals that Russian spies could decode or something like that. This was in 1978. But then they found a record of someone else who had used one, so they let me bring it in. But someone there told me it wouldn't work on their CRTs because their screens were covered with smoked glass. Well, things got tight as far as the time we had and I was needed to type code in. I did that and just as a final check I decided to read from the screen to make sure I hadn't made any errors. In these days there were no screen readers. I didn't have any trouble at all reading the screen with my optacon. Everyone was surprised that I could read through the glass which must not have been heavily smoked. And that taught me not to listen to people when they told me the optacon wouldn't work in a given situation. Sometimes it won't, but I find out for myself because many times it will. I've had little success reading from a TV screen but I haven't tried that much. The only time I wish I could is when something on the TV has to be changed and it displays those menus. But I have had it set up the way I want it for years so I don't really need that. It would be useful for people who have cable because then you could read the TV guide they have on one channel. I don't have cable so I don't need that. Gail These days, tv screens have all sorts of things on them. Besides 800 numbers in infomercials, they also show all kinds of program guides. How possible it is to freeze theseor how fast they move is the kind of stuff we need to know. One of the abilities of every Optacon lens which no one has mentioned is the ability to read through glass. Not all sighted people read so fast either. If we can figure out what lens works, there may be hope for us in reading some of these things. AS I SAID, IT'S AN EXPERIMENT. Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -Catherine Thomas braille@xxxxxxxxx / ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.