You know, after hearing all the comments about ISPs I'm almost inclined to try to work out the problems with the one I have. Up until very recently I'd never had a problem, no busy signals, rare downtime, it's fast enough for anything I want if for and it costs me $14.50 for all the hours I need (60, I think). Nothing sounds much better unless I want to get back on the dance floor with bell or rogers, and I try to avoid both at any cost. $40 or more for an ISP, just to add to their corporate coffers? Call me cheap but I don't see it. unless, of course, one of them has a change of heart and begins to treat customers and living breathing human beings and not targets for corporate fraud. I'm not holding my breath. jim Users can subscribe to the List by sending an email to <muglo-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field Users can unsubscribe from the List by sending an email to <muglo-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field Users must send messages or replies to <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> All messages are archived so that you can view them at any time by going to <//www.freelists.org/archives/muglo> Problems concerning use of the FreeList should be sent to <paulthomas@xxxxxxx> Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/