Joe, Thanks Joe but... My original email states I am running 10.4.11 For PDF¹s 1. Am I clicking on ³File² at the top of the open file or clicking on the icon for the as yet unopened ³file²? 2. Am I right-clicking the ³print² icon on the toolbar or the ³print² on the file drop-down menu? I tried both and cannot find Orientation this way. I can find orientation in page setup but then there is no access to printer settings. Whichever way I try, I only have ³standard² preset in the drop-down menu. Theresa On 08/08/09 5:31 PM, "joseph nolan" <josephnolan1@xxxxxx> wrote: > On OSX.5.7 > > From PDF "File", Right click "Print", Click on Blue Arrow next to > Printer type. Under the Orientation, Click on the next Drop down menu > to "print settings", check "toner save mode". > > From Safari, Right click on "print" Under the "Orientation" should be > another drop down menu, click on "Print settings", check "Toner save > Mode" box. > > On Word, Under Standard Preset, third dropdown menu, click on "Print > settings", check "Toner save mode". > > It works for me. If it doesn't work for you, it is probably because > you are using an earlier version of OS X. Good luck. > Best wishes, > Joe Nolan > > > > > --- MUGLO information at <http://www.freewebs.com/muglo> Manage your account options at <//www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi>