I received/exchanged some email from wadcutter in Mid. Dec. as a result of him logging in minutes behind us at several caches. (He was so close behind us he had our vehicle and license plate memorized, but we never saw him). Seemed like a decent fellow. In one message (we were discussing a cache that is known to be 300+ ft. off - Glen you know which one I'm talking about), he made a comment that was almost verbatim to his post 2 weeks later on Dec 31 in the forums - that someone he met on the trail in the St. Louis area had told him they intentionally placed listed the coordinates of a cache in the middle of the Mississippi in order to mess with fellow geocahcers. We all know if one was listed in the middle of the Mississippi it would be noticed by someone around here almost immediately, but afterwards I began to wonder if maybe the body of water was miscommunicated and the K-only cache is what I suspected it was about. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: [GeoStL] not good press for st. louis - i am starting to narrow in on who was "joking" with wadcutter but not sure of the caches mentioned yet.. any hints?? gln http://opentopic.groundspeak.com/0/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1750973553&f=3000917383&m=5810919345&r=5580915445#5580915445 in the forums... "The 1 cache that was listed by his buddy in the game has been archived. Several people logged the coords were off by several hundred feet. We found it only by a detailed search and we also noticed it was off by a couple of hundred feet. I thought it might have been common error and the +/- factor between a couple of different units. But then the hint took the person in a different direction too. Not knowing the people I again gave them the benefit of the doubt, figuring some people couldn't tell which way was north with a gps, compass, road map, and the north star labled for them. Some people just don't have a sense of direction. It wasn't until I ran into the other part of the team that he admitted they knew the directions were off and it was part of their private game. The next day or 2 they archived that cache. I think I've figured out at least 1 other they've done the same with just from reading the notes and knowing the general location. When the weather clears enough I'm going to give it a go and if it is another similiar cache I'll definitely be posting it as a request to archive. And I'll let Groundspeak know. They are/were in the general area of St Louis. " ------------------ I have found nearly every cache in this area and I know of NO cache in the St. Louis, Mo area that fits this description in the last two years. If you email me the name of the cache I will check it out. We try to maintain high quality caches of all skill levels in the area. If ANYONE hears of a cache that is not on the up & up, PLEASE contact US. glenn nash st. louis area geocachers assn. www.GeoStl.com .:~*~:.:~*~:.:~*~:.:~*~:. Glenn St. Louis, Mo **************************************************************************** Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=ocaching The SLAGA E-store is closed for image repairs...... ****************************************************************************