[GeoStL] Re: MOGA 2008 Ideas and Concerns...
- From: "Tim and Pam" <timpam2mocachers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:39:12 -0500
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You bring up some good questions that we need to look at.
We would love to hold MOGA 2008 at a State Park but like Rich said the
insurance is a killer. If enough people wrote to JC and complained about all
of the revenue that is being lost in the state parks because of there
insurance requirements then they might start changing there policy's.
I wonder if one of the private campgrounds that Jen mentioned would be
interested and what they would require. Another private campground would be
Garrison's. We could even set up a cannon caching competition. I think that
might be worth looking into. What about MDC areas do they allow events
without an insurance policy?
Just my 2 cents worth.
Tim
www.tueltzen.smugmug.com
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[mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Rogers
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:37 PM
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Subject: [GeoStL] MOGA 2008 Ideas and Concerns...
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During the awards ceremony at MOGA this year Mike
alluded to MOGA 2008. He said one of the ideas of its
location could be in St. Louis proper, being held at a
few parks simultaneously.
While in theory, it may be a neat place to have it, I
have some concerns about a few things:
1. To have MOGA at more than one main location could
be a logistical nightmare. I haven't been in the
planning process for any of these events, granted, but
trying to set up events and activites in more than one
park could be a pain.
2. How could we have any park to ourselves for the
most part? Forest Park, one of the biggest, has the
zoo, the Jewel Box, the museum and other attractions.
I'm not saying an event couldn't be held there, for
example, but the muggle quotient and gawkers would be
high.
3. How many caches could you feasibly place in any of
the parks? I know Forest Park is big and that would
hold many, but to have enough for events you'd have to
utilize many parks...not all of which are close by.
This leads to...
4. If you were to use different parks for caches in
the events, people should not have to drive to other
areas as part of the competition. The last thing
anyone needs are a bunch of cachers working against
the clock and facing St. Louis traffic. That could be
the recipe for accidents, and no one wants that.
5. Many people, including some of our friends from
Minnestota, don't like the idea of urban caching for
MOGA. I'm sure there are a few places with some hills
in the area, but for the most part, the St. Louis area
cannot compete with the Mark Twain Lakes, Meramecs and
Hawns as far as topography. I'm sad to say that some
people from Minnesota on their message boards and even
some I spoke to at this past MOGA personally have
questioned whether they'd even attend an "urban" MOGA.
6. Costs. I am not sure about camping facilities in
the St. Louis area, but hotels there are not nearly as
cheap as what we had at this past MOGA. This could
turn some away. Some prefer camping to hotels
anyway...I don't know how this could or would play
out.
That's about enough of the concerns...so how about
some ideas?
1. Why not have the next MOGA in a previously-used
spot? Meramec is a beautiful place and so is Hawn...is
there something against using an old area in lieu of a
new area?
2. Have you thought of using an area in the Ozarks?
Lake of the Ozarks? Or, perhaps, in the St. Francois
area in Sam A. Baker State park?
3. Perhaps a poll could be set up to vote on
locations...
Well, I have more ideas, but I am having writer's
block so I might post more later. I just wanted to
shoot this out to y'all.
Thanks again for a great MOGA 2007!
-Michael
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