- As promised, besides the lunch training today, I have placed CDs in caches. It is fairly easy to do with the directions. If you have problems installing, let me know. I am also willing to do another training. Goshawk took a bag of CDs and will place them in a cache in the St Charles area and let people know which cache it is in. Today I placed about 6 in Hellebusch Hotel for Travel Bugs GCYV4Z In the Alton area there are some in the HOLIDAY CACHE #2 HAPPY VALENTINES DAY GC10W7E And my Tallgrass Prairie Cache GCECC Anyone is encouraged to copy, share, and pass on CDs. If the CDs run out, I will get them in other caches. I also hope others will start contributing trails/POIs to the ST Area trail map. The more people contribute the better map we will all have. No trail or trail segment is to small to include. All I need is a track file or waypoint and it only takes a few minutes to add to the map. Jim Bensman "Nature Bats Last" > -----Original Message----- > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Bensman > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:23 AM > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Map training/late lunch Wednesday RE: Free high > quality transparent Garmin Mapsource Topo and trail maps > > - > Yes you are not the only one to tell me they want to come but cannot > make > it. I am willing to do it again. > > I have made about 20 extra copies. I have some placed in some Alton IL > Caches. I hope to get some in a couple of STL area caches today. > Hopefully > others at lunch can help out. I will send a message of which caches > they > are in tonight. Everyone is also encouraged to share and copy the CDs. > > The CDs have directions. It is pretty simple. Basically, you copy some > files to your hardrive (the hardest and most important thing is to copy > them > to the correct location-if you don't have them in the right location, it > does not work), you double click on a couple of files to enter data into > the > registry, and if you want the trails to be thin red lines (which you > should > as you can see them much easier), you have to run a program on the CD. > I > tell you what to enter to run the program. That is all there is to > setting > it up. (There are also directions on how to update the maps and add new > maps. It is also very simple to do.) > > So most people should be able to install them themselves. But I realize > some people prefer help and I am willing to help. I also realize some > people are a bit hesitant when you have to enter something into the > registry. > > One thing I hope is people will start contributing to the trail maps. > As > you will see the STL Area map already has over 1000 segments of trails > and > 1000 POIs. I hope others will start GPSing trails or even parts of > trails > (and POIs not on City Navigator) and send them to me. I can then add > them > to the trail map for all to use. > > > Jim Bensman > "Nature Bats Last" > > -----Original Message----- > > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joyce Hoffman > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 5:03 AM > > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Map training/late lunch Wednesday RE: Free high > > quality transparent Garmin Mapsource Topo and trail maps > > > > - > > Jim, I would have loved to attend but I'm still in DC and won't be > > around. Maybe there will be a make-up class. > > > > Joyce (lake_wannabees) > > Jim Bensman <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > - > > A few of us are getting together for a late lunch and training on how > to > > install my Garmin maps. We will be meeting at 2 pm Wednesday at the > > Fuddruckers on Dorsett and 270. (Here is where you turn off Dorsett > Road > > and go up the hill: N38 42.869 W90 26.963) > > > > I will have my laptop and CDs with everything needed to install them. > So > > if > > you want a CD, let me know you will be there so I have enough CDs > made. > > It > > is pretty easy to set up - I expect the training to last about an > hour. > > If > > you have a laptop, you can bring it and install the maps. > > > > Remember (see below) these maps are just for Garmin and are extremely > > high > > quality maps. > > > > Myotis > > > > Jim Bensman > > 1802 Main Street > > Alton, IL 62002-4724 > > (618) 463-0714 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching- > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Bensman > > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:40 AM > > > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [GeoStL] Free high quality transparent Garmin Mapsource > Topo > > > and trail maps > > > > > > - > > > I have previously pointed out I make high quality transparent Garmin > > > Mapsource Topo and trail maps. They are posted at: > > > > > > http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com/maplist.php?author=4216 > > > > > > They are a bit complicated to set up the first time. But after that > > > they > > > are extremely easy to use. These are extremely high quality maps > that > > I > > > have spent hundreds of hours making and they are far superior to > what > > > you > > > can buy from Garmin. And they are free. > > > > > > Some have indicated they want to take me up on my offer to bring my > > > laptop > > > and CDs with everything needed to install and use the maps and show > > > people > > > how to do it. (You can bring your laptop and set it up then.) Once I > > > get > > > you set up, it will be extremely easy after that. > > > > > > Since I have topo maps for the MOGA area, I am going to try to set > up > > a > > > lunch/dinner before MOGA. So if anyone else wants the free maps and > > > lesson, > > > let me know ASAP (and when you are free) so I can set a time. > > > > > > They only work on Garmin and will show in MapSource. You send the > maps > > > to > > > your GPS just like other maps. You can also turn them on and off in > > your > > > GPS > > > like any other map set. > > > > > > If you want to see how they look in mapsource and on the 60csx > > compared > > > to > > > Garmin's Topo USA, here is a pdf of the comparision. > > > > > > http://webpages.charter.net/jbensman1/Temp/Maps.pdf > > > > > > I have three types of maps: > > > > > > Topo: These are transparent maps that show up on top of City > Navigator > > > which you still use for route calculation. They have topo lines and > > > hydrology (streams, rivers, lakes, etc). The topo lines are from the > > > USGS > > > and they are more accurate than what is on the 24K USGS maps. I > > > generally > > > use a 10 foot contour interval. Most of the hydrology is high > > > resolution > > > (equal to or better than the 24K USGS). Some places do not have the > > > high > > > resolution data). I have also done lots of corrections to the > > hydrology > > > by > > > looking at ExpertGPS, Google Earth, and field checks. What it looks > > > like in > > > the GPS is City Navigator with topolines and much better hydrology. > > > This is > > > great for caching as many times it helps you figure out how to get > to > > a > > > cache as you can see the terrain and where the water is. That makes > it > > > easier to figure out how to get to a cache as a straight line is not > > > always > > > the best way. > > > > > > Trails: These are transparent trails and points maps. They are meant > > > to > > > show things City Navigator does not have. My St. Louis Area Trail > map > > > has > > > over 1000 points and over 1100 trail/road segments. They are trails, > > > parking areas, roads not shown on City Navigator (for example, I > have > > > all > > > the roads in Bush Wildlife Area), scenic areas, buildings, shelters, > > and > > > various other things not shown in City Navigator. They are > transparent > > > so > > > they show up over City Navigator like the topo lines. One problem I > > had > > > with them was trails were sometimes hard to see when there were lots > > of > > > close topo lines. Someone taught me how to use a new program that > > > allows > > > you to make Garmin display the trails as a thin red line. Now the > > > trails > > > show up extremely well. I will bring the freeware program and show > > > people > > > how to use it. Most of the things in these maps, I have GPSed. Some > > > come > > > from Google Earth, ExpertGPS, maps of areas scanned into ExpertGPS, > > and > > > the > > > STL County Parks Department gave me some trail shape files. > Hopefully > > > others can contribute more trails. > > > > > > POIs: These are maps that contain points that are displayed on the > 24K > > > USGS > > > maps. They are also transparent. I have also added other things. I > > > found > > > a file with the locations of 54,000 springs in MO and about 50,000 > > sink > > > holes. 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