[bksvol-discuss] Re: BAEN BOOKS
- From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:57:43 -0500
According to her note, if you scan a book, then yes as you would not be
dealing with the particular technical issues we've been discussing. They're
asking us not to submit any of the electronic books.
Pratik
-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:23 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: BAEN BOOKS
If I scan a Baen book, do I submit or not?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Claire O'Brien" <claire.o@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Jim Fruchterman" <Jim.F@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Lisa Friendly"
<lisa.f@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Jake Brownell" <jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Carrie Karnos" <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>; "Mandy Throckmorton"
<Mandy.T@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:28 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] BAEN BOOKS
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Recently the subject of Baen books has shown up on the discussion lists.
>
>
> The decision regarding Bookshare.org policy regarding Baen books is
> this:
> Bookshare.org staff will be responsible for coordinating the bulk add of
> Baen content to the Bookshare collection.
>
> These books may require some mark up, and to ensure they are done
> consistently; we've made the decision to process them in-house.
>
> We ask that our volunteers continue to submit books that they have
> personally scanned.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Claire O'Brien
> Collection Development Manager
> Bookshare.org
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager [mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:51 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss digest users
> Subject: bksvol-discuss Digest V5 #9
>
> bksvol-discuss Digest Mon, 07 Jan 2008 Volume: 05 Issue: 009
>
> In This Issue:
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing
> [bksvol-discuss] Romance Book club Meeting
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: atonement
> [bksvol-discuss] OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> [bksvol-discuss] hope springs eternal
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others
> sources--of
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others
> sources--of
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: More kids series
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: sorry
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: just uploaded
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> [bksvol-discuss] Baen books again - how do we submit
> them?
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning?
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice -- EPSON
> GT-2500
> [bksvol-discuss] Just submitted
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice -- EPSON
> GT-2500
> [bksvol-discuss] Another submission
> [bksvol-discuss] Another submission
> [bksvol-discuss] Adult Content from NLS, interesting
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> the
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> [bksvol-discuss] Submitted: Matrix Energetics
> [bksvol-discuss] One last submission
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> [bksvol-discuss] Star Wars books
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Star Wars books
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> the
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> the
> [bksvol-discuss] Hooked On Books Is Back Tomorrow,
> Tuesday,
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> the
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> the
> [bksvol-discuss] 16 Lighthouse Road
> [bksvol-discuss] tables converting to text Jamie's great
> tip
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> the
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Clarification on Tables
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: 16 Lighthouse Road
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables converting to text Jamie's
> great
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> [bksvol-discuss] Wish List and other books I have
> scanned an
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist Request
> [bksvol-discuss] Trouble on the Site
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: 16 Lighthouse Road
> [bksvol-discuss] Thank You
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:03:37 -0800 (PST)
> From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing
>
> Grace,
>
> I put in a request for Savage Skies. The other two are
> not in my lbiraries. I see from checking Amazon that
> they are Harlequin romances. If they were submitted by
> you-know-who and are in the shape that you describe,
> the best thing to do, though they sound like delicious
> reading, is to reject them. If Savage Skies is
> submitted by the same person, I suggest you reject
> that, too, and if you do, please let me know and I'll
> cancel the request.
>
> G.Cindy
>
> --- Silvara <silvara@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks:
>>
>> I am validating 3 books and all 3 have pages missing
>> or pages need rescanning or both.
>>
>> Savage Skies by Cassie Edwards, The Knight's
>> courtship by Joanne Rock and the Venetian's Mistress
>> by Anne Elizabeth Cree. If someone could get the
>> books and scan these pages then these books can
>> finally be off step 1.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Grace
>
>
> WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is
> available at
> http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm
> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
> http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm
>
> www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads
>
>
>
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> From: "Susan" <slumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Romance Book club Meeting
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 02:20:07 -0600
>
> Happy New Year Everyone From Grace and Susan,
>
>
> We hope you'll join us on the 3rd Friday of January for the first
> meeting
> of the Romance Book Club in 2008. We'll be discussing A Cinderella
> Christmas: (An American Romance) by Shelley Galloway as well as
> recommending
> a book for the February meeting.
>
>
>
> Synopsis: When Morgan finds himself suddenly dateless for his company's
> Christmas ball, he asks the woman who cleans his office. But the fairy
> tale
> evening falls apart when his ex-girlfriend shows up... Guess we weren't
> completely able to let go of the holidays quite yet! Hope you'll join
> us.
>
>
>
> Date: Friday, January 18, 2008
>
>
>
> Time: 6 P.M. Pacific, 7 Mountain, 8 Central, 9 P.M. Eastern and Saturday
> GMT
> 02:00.
>
>
>
> Where: Just point your web browser to the following address:
>
> http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rs7867a2369e0e
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:22:52 -0500
> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: atonement
>
> Because it was done before NLS made it available or started before NLS
> made
> the book available, or because it was required for a class where
> specific
> asignments covering specific pages needed to be done would be my two
> best
> reasons why duplication is worth it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 1:41 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] atonement
>
>
>>I see that this book is on the new books list. It is available both as
> a
>>web braille book and a talking book. I fail to understand why anyone
> would
>>spend their time scanning a book that is available in both forms from
> NLS.
>>Jill
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:37:38 -0800
>
> What a hoot! Many of audience in costume, which my friend described to
> me. I
> wasn't able to see the lyrics scrolling by, but remembered about half of
> the
> songs. When we went in, we were handed a small bag of props to use
> during
> certain scenes. A woman in an old formal dress went up and explained the
> process, props, what to use when, various things and did some practice
> signing with us. She also explained about "chair-ography." Like
> choreography for dancers. But when doing the hand jive and a few other
> movements we had to keep them small or we'd jab the people beside us. So
> we
> have several run throughs of "chair-ography." Young John Travolta. It
> was
> obvious where Saturday Night Fever started here first. And some of the
> names... One of the song writers was Barry Gibb of the BeeGees, we were
> easily able to identify which songs. On one song, the lead guitarist was
> peter Frampton. Sid Caesar was the then-younger athletic coach. He
> showed up
> in Seattle when the musical Hairspray was being developed before going
> to
> Broadway. There was Eve Arden as school principal, and friend and I were
> racking our brains for title of TV show she'd been in. We knew our moms
> would know, even through the dementia both suffer. But finally my friend
> remembered "Our Miss Brooks," and she was a secretary. It was a very
> early
> version of "Mary Tyler Moore" show or Marlo Thomas in "That Girl." Funny
> that now John Travolta is in movie "Hairspray." Now I want the
> sing-a-long
> version of "The Sound of Music" to return. That was even more fun!
>
> Liz, hoarse from singing along, off-key as usual
>
> Liz Halperin
> Portland, OR
> lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] hope springs eternal
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:39:02 -0800
>
> Still hoping for a good and fixed scan of Wheelock's Latin.....
>
> Liz Halperin
> Portland, OR
> lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:54:39 -0500
> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others
> sources--official
>
> I'm still not clear on whether that means porting over the rtf or buying
> the
> book and scanning. Perhaps I'm not awake yet. <sigh>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:36 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] books available from others sources--official
> attitude
>
>
>>
>> -For those of you who might have missed Jim
>> Fruchterman's post on the subject, in response to a
>> question about Baen books, I'm posting it here again.
>> Actually, I'm not sure if it was posted here or on the
>> bookshare list, or both but anyway, here is the
>> pertinent part:
>>
>> G.Cindy
>>
>> "The question of duplication (with other possible
>> means of obtaining
>>> accessible books) comes up frequently. Our general
>> answer is that we'd
>>> like to have the book. There are several reasons
>> for this:
>>> - format problems (what if PDF doesn't work for you?
>> What if you're
>>> deaf and blind and need Braille?)
>>> - format flexibility (what if you prefer Braille
>> over audio, even though
>>> you can hear? What if seeing and hearing the text at
>> the same time works
>>> better for you? What if you want to read one way
>> while mobile and
>>> another way while in your home or office?)
>>> - including some Bookshare.org users who are
>> excluded from some sources
>>> (because they have a learning disability, because
>> they are in a
>>> different country)
>>> - series completeness (we're increasingly trying to
>> make entire series
>>> available on Bookshare.org)
>>> - ease of access (what percentage of print disabled
>> people are likely to
>>> know about a given source, such as Baen's deal?)
>>> - cost savings (it's cheaper for us to deal with our
>> users than it is
>>> for publishers to do the same: that's often the
>> motivation for working
>>> with us)
>>> - Lowering the barrier to access by increasing task
>> success (we want the
>>> new and existing user to find the book he or she
>> wants the great
>>> majority of the time, so that they are confident in
>> the future of having
>>> access)
>>>
>>> I'm probably forgetting more reasons, but the key
>> one is Bookshare.org
>>> ethic for collection development. If one person in
>> our community
>>> thought it was worth scanning and validating, we
>> want that book. That's
>>> why 90% of the Bookshare.org collection is there.
>> Our low cost to add a
>>> book because of our dedicated volunteer community
>> makes this a
>>> responsible policy, while empowering our readers."
>>>
>>> Jim Fruchterman
>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> line. To get a list of available commands, put the
>> word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is
>> available at
>> http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm
>> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
>> http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm
>>
>> www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:00:38 -0500
> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
> I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded for
> a
> long time, at least the Perfection line.
>
> What model Epson?
> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
>
>
> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them again.
> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out help,
> so
> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a brand
> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't take
> up
> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I have
> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine if
> i
> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i
> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped
> there
> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times to
> count
> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let me
> know.
> Thanks all.
> Siobhan
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 04:03:34 -0500
>
> Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I got
> so
> frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after clicking continue
> is
> inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson perfection 1260 whether or
> not
> its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven years, it was a freebie
>
> from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax
> scanner that once installed took so long the tech woman said youwon't
> ned
> it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I ended up with a paper
>
> weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson again.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
>
>>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded
> for a
>>long time, at least the Perfection line.
>>
>> What model Epson?
>> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
>>
>>
>> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them
> again.
>> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out
> help,
>> so
>> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a
> brand
>> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't
> take
>> up
>> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I
> have
>> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine
> if i
>> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i
>> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped
> there
>> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times to
>
>> count
>> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let me
>
>> know.
>> Thanks all.
>> Siobhan
>>
>>
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date:
> 1/6/2008
>> 11:57 AM
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Scott Blanks" <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 01:09:37 -0800
>
> Most Epsons can be installed without using the installation cd. You can
> download drivers for the device from the Internet. I'm not saying this
> is
> easy, but just wanted you to know that there are alternatives. Epsons,
> in my
> opinion, and in the opinion of many others, are great scanners.
>
> Scott
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:03 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
>
>> Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I got
> so
>> frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after clicking continue
> is
>> inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson perfection 1260 whether or
> not
>> its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven years, it was a
> freebie
>> from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax
>> scanner that once installed took so long the tech woman said youwon't
> ned
>> it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I ended up with a
> paper
>> weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson again.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>>
>>
>>>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded
> for a
>>>long time, at least the Perfection line.
>>>
>>> What model Epson?
>>> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them
> again.
>>> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out
> help,
>>> so
>>> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a
> brand
>>> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't
> take
>>> up
>>> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I
> have
>>> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine
> if
>>> i
>>> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i
>>> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped
> there
>>> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times
> to
>>> count
>>> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let
> me
>>> know.
>>> Thanks all.
>>> Siobhan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> --------
>>>
>>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 01:31:02 -0800 (PST)
> From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
> I've been very happy with mine. But the more recent
> one I got, which was on sale, is not as complete as
> the other one, and I'd have to download the rest and
> pay for it. But since I'm not scanning complete books
> any more it's fine for my needs.
>
> G.Cindy
>
> --- Scott Blanks <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Most Epsons can be installed without using the
>> installation cd. You can
>> download drivers for the device from the Internet.
>> I'm not saying this is
>> easy, but just wanted you to know that there are
>> alternatives. Epsons, in my
>> opinion, and in the opinion of many others, are
>> great scanners.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:03 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>>
>>
>> > Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to
>> help me withit, I got so
>> > frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk
>> after clicking continue is
>> > inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson
>> perfection 1260 whether or not
>> > its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven
>> years, it was a freebie
>> > from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre
>> that, I had a UMax
>> > scanner that once installed took so long the tech
>> woman said youwon't ned
>> > it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I
>> ended up with a paper
>> > weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson
>> again.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM
>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying
>> advice
>> >
>> >
>> >>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have
>> been highly regarded for a
>> >>long time, at least the Perfection line.
>> >>
>> >> What model Epson?
>> >> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech
>> support people?
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
>> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would
>> rather not use them again.
>> >> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the
>> one I had with out help,
>> >> so
>> >> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get
>> another one. I'm not a brand
>> >> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a
>> huge one so it won't take
>> >> up
>> >> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As
>> for where to buy, I have
>> >> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at
>> staples, but that's fine if
>> >> i
>> >> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's
>> an online merchant i
>> >> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe
>> because you've shopped there
>> >> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card
>> fraud to many times to
>> >> count
>> >> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's
>> no rush so just let me
>> >> know.
>> >> Thanks all.
>> >> Siobhan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 01:32:14 -0800 (PST)
> From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
>
> It sounds like a lot of fun. There was a theater in
> L.A. where they did the same thing at nighttime shows
> with Rocky Horror Picture Show. Fortunately, it played
> for years, so when my girls were finally old enough we
> took them.
>
> G.Cindy
>
> --- liz halperin <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> What a hoot! Many of audience in costume, which my
>> friend described to me. I
>> wasn't able to see the lyrics scrolling by, but
>> remembered about half of the
>> songs. When we went in, we were handed a small bag
>> of props to use during
>> certain scenes. A woman in an old formal dress went
>> up and explained the
>> process, props, what to use when, various things and
>> did some practice
>> signing with us. She also explained about
>> "chair-ography." Like
>> choreography for dancers. But when doing the hand
>> jive and a few other
>> movements we had to keep them small or we'd jab the
>> people beside us. So we
>> have several run throughs of "chair-ography." Young
>> John Travolta. It was
>> obvious where Saturday Night Fever started here
>> first. And some of the
>> names... One of the song writers was Barry Gibb of
>> the BeeGees, we were
>> easily able to identify which songs. On one song,
>> the lead guitarist was
>> peter Frampton. Sid Caesar was the then-younger
>> athletic coach. He showed up
>> in Seattle when the musical Hairspray was being
>> developed before going to
>> Broadway. There was Eve Arden as school principal,
>> and friend and I were
>> racking our brains for title of TV show she'd been
>> in. We knew our moms
>> would know, even through the dementia both suffer.
>> But finally my friend
>> remembered "Our Miss Brooks," and she was a
>> secretary. It was a very early
>> version of "Mary Tyler Moore" show or Marlo Thomas
>> in "That Girl." Funny
>> that now John Travolta is in movie "Hairspray." Now
>> I want the sing-a-long
>> version of "The Sound of Music" to return. That was
>> even more fun!
>>
>> Liz, hoarse from singing along, off-key as usual
>>
>> Liz Halperin
>> Portland, OR
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> From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others
> sources--official att
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 04:44:22 -0500
>
> That is the one publisher where the RTF books can be ported so long as
> you
> make sure that those submitted RTF files conform to rest of
> Bookshare.org's
> submission guidelines.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pratik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary
> Petraccaro
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:55 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others
> sources--official
> attitude
>
> I'm still not clear on whether that means porting over the rtf or buying
> the
>
> book and scanning. Perhaps I'm not awake yet. <sigh>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:36 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] books available from others sources--official
> attitude
>
>
>>
>> -For those of you who might have missed Jim
>> Fruchterman's post on the subject, in response to a
>> question about Baen books, I'm posting it here again.
>> Actually, I'm not sure if it was posted here or on the
>> bookshare list, or both but anyway, here is the
>> pertinent part:
>>
>> G.Cindy
>>
>> "The question of duplication (with other possible
>> means of obtaining
>>> accessible books) comes up frequently. Our general
>> answer is that we'd
>>> like to have the book. There are several reasons
>> for this:
>>> - format problems (what if PDF doesn't work for you?
>> What if you're
>>> deaf and blind and need Braille?)
>>> - format flexibility (what if you prefer Braille
>> over audio, even though
>>> you can hear? What if seeing and hearing the text at
>> the same time works
>>> better for you? What if you want to read one way
>> while mobile and
>>> another way while in your home or office?)
>>> - including some Bookshare.org users who are
>> excluded from some sources
>>> (because they have a learning disability, because
>> they are in a
>>> different country)
>>> - series completeness (we're increasingly trying to
>> make entire series
>>> available on Bookshare.org)
>>> - ease of access (what percentage of print disabled
>> people are likely to
>>> know about a given source, such as Baen's deal?)
>>> - cost savings (it's cheaper for us to deal with our
>> users than it is
>>> for publishers to do the same: that's often the
>> motivation for working
>>> with us)
>>> - Lowering the barrier to access by increasing task
>> success (we want the
>>> new and existing user to find the book he or she
>> wants the great
>>> majority of the time, so that they are confident in
>> the future of having
>>> access)
>>>
>>> I'm probably forgetting more reasons, but the key
>> one is Bookshare.org
>>> ethic for collection development. If one person in
>> our community
>>> thought it was worth scanning and validating, we
>> want that book. That's
>>> why 90% of the Bookshare.org collection is there.
>> Our low cost to add a
>>> book because of our dedicated volunteer community
>> makes this a
>>> responsible policy, while empowering our readers."
>>>
>>> Jim Fruchterman
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:36:19 -0500
>
> Hi,
> Would they not need a grade 2 translator?
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>
>
>
>
>
> "E."
>
> <thoth93@earthlin
>
> k.net>
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> Subject
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>
>
>
> 01/04/2008 11:10
>
> PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> If a deaf blind person is using a rtf file with a braille display the
> rtf will showup as grade two braille.
>
> E.
>
>
> At 01:38 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote:
>
>>So we can make BRF books for the deaf-blind?
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
>>james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>>
>>"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
>>world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ann Parsons"
>> <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
> To
>> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject
>> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen
> Books?
>>
>> 01/04/2008 01:33
>> PM
>>
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>> Please respond to
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>>
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>Why put Baen books on Bookshare? Baen books are free to the blind.
>>
>>Ann P.
>>
>>--
>>Ann K. Parsons
>>Portal Tutoring
>>EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: More kids series
> From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:38:14 -0500
>
> Hi,
> I will help validate any that come through?
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:38:59 -0500
>
> No. The screen reader or the note taker takes care of grade 2
> translation
> on the fly.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
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> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 7:36 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
>
> Hi,
> Would they not need a grade 2 translator?
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>
>
>
>
>
> "E."
>
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>
>
>
> 01/04/2008 11:10
>
> PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to
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> If a deaf blind person is using a rtf file with a braille display the
> rtf will showup as grade two braille.
>
> E.
>
>
> At 01:38 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote:
>
>>So we can make BRF books for the deaf-blind?
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
>>james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>>
>>"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
>>world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ann Parsons"
>> <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
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> Books?
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>> 01/04/2008 01:33
>> PM
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>Why put Baen books on Bookshare? Baen books are free to the blind.
>>
>>Ann P.
>>
>>--
>>Ann K. Parsons
>>Portal Tutoring
>>EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: sorry
> From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:42:55 -0500
>
> Hi Maithe,
> My prayers are with you.
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
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> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: just uploaded
> From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:46:31 -0500
>
> Hi,
> I think I saw this title on step one before. I could be wrong though.
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
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>
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> Excellent book. Already read the others and was glad for this one.
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> From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:22:05 -0500
>
> me too, My epson 1660 is still trucking along, after now, what three
> years
> of use, and I put it through its paces, smile.
>
> Will be sad when this guy goes.
>
> Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 2:39 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
>
> When you think you know what you want, try online with www.newegg.com
> for a
> good price. I've purchased tons of electronics from them, very satisfied
> by
> prices and policies. Me, I'm still happily scanning with my old
> workhorse
> Epson Perfection 1660. Also try online www.pricegrabbers.com to see who
> has
> the cheapest item you've chosen. For me it's usually been NewEgg, so I
> go
> directly there now.
>
> Liz in PDX
>
> Liz in Portland
>
> Liz Halperin
> Portland, OR
> lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Guido Corona
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:55 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
>
> If you want an extremely durable scanner, optimized for document
> scanning,
> that can scan a page in just about 2 seconds, you may want to try the
> EPSON
> GT-2500. Lists for $595 but is usually retailed for less. See features
> and
> specs at:
>
> http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCooki
> e=ye
> s&oid=63059818
> <http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCook
> ie=y
> es&oid=63059818>
>
> And it has apparently an absolute killer document feeder to boot!
>
> G.
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able <http://www.ibm.com/able>
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
> Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> 01/06/2008 09:17 PM
> Please respond to
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> To
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> cc
> Subject
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi. If you're looking for a small, fast scanner, you might consider the
> Canon LIde scanners. I have used them for years, and they work well. I
> have
> owned a LiDe 30 and a LiDe 70, and both of them have served me well. The
> LiDe 30 scanned over a thousand books for me before it died after around
> five years of almost daily use. The software that comes with this line
> of
> scanners stays out of the way and doesn't interfere with Kurzweil in any
> way. I bought mine from Office Depot, and Staples has these scanners
> too.
> This scanner is light and slim enough to fit into a laptop bag, so it
> can
> travel with you if you're in school or want to scan a reference book at
> your
> library. I'm interested to see what others will recommend for you. I
> hope
> this helps.
>
> Monica Willyard
>
>
> Siobhan wrote:
> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them again.
> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out help,
> so
> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a brand
> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't take
> up
> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive.
>
>
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> From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 05:22:59 -0800
>
> This is about 9 blocks down the street from me....
>
> "The Clinton Street Theater has been showing the Rocky Horror Picture
> Show
> every Saturday night (except for foul weather, holidays, etc.) since
> April
> 1978.
>
> Bring your rice, the toast, the G-String, and come on down to the
> longest
> running RHPS in the WORLD!"
>
> 30 years... For $6, a real deal.
> liz
>
> Liz Halperin
> Portland, OR
> lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:24:57 -0500
>
> Ah, smile.
>
> I have been to that form of movie before with the Rockie horror Picture
> Show, smile, a blast with a lot of fun. Would love to join in the
> Greece
> version.
>
> Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
> and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
> juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> Graduate Alumni Association Board
> www.guidedogs.com
>
> More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my
> limitations fall from me, my spirit is free.
> - Helen Keller
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:37 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
>
>
> What a hoot! Many of audience in costume, which my friend described to
> me. I
> wasn't able to see the lyrics scrolling by, but remembered about half of
> the
> songs. When we went in, we were handed a small bag of props to use
> during
> certain scenes. A woman in an old formal dress went up and explained the
> process, props, what to use when, various things and did some practice
> signing with us. She also explained about "chair-ography." Like
> choreography for dancers. But when doing the hand jive and a few other
> movements we had to keep them small or we'd jab the people beside us. So
> we
> have several run throughs of "chair-ography." Young John Travolta. It
> was
> obvious where Saturday Night Fever started here first. And some of the
> names... One of the song writers was Barry Gibb of the BeeGees, we were
> easily able to identify which songs. On one song, the lead guitarist was
> peter Frampton. Sid Caesar was the then-younger athletic coach. He
> showed up
> in Seattle when the musical Hairspray was being developed before going
> to
> Broadway. There was Eve Arden as school principal, and friend and I were
> racking our brains for title of TV show she'd been in. We knew our moms
> would know, even through the dementia both suffer. But finally my friend
> remembered "Our Miss Brooks," and she was a secretary. It was a very
> early
> version of "Mary Tyler Moore" show or Marlo Thomas in "That Girl." Funny
> that now John Travolta is in movie "Hairspray." Now I want the
> sing-a-long
> version of "The Sound of Music" to return. That was even more fun!
>
> Liz, hoarse from singing along, off-key as usual
>
> Liz Halperin
> Portland, OR
> lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 08:43:20 -0500
> From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
>
> Lots of us load .rtf files into notetakers all the time when we
> validate. They come up in grade 2 braille. Notetakers have the
> translator built right in.
>
> E.
>
>
> At 07:36 AM 1/7/2008, you wrote:
>>Hi,
>>Would they not need a grade 2 translator?
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
>>james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>>
>>"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
>>world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "E."
>> <thoth93@earthlin
>> k.net>
> To
>> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject
>> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen
> Books?
>>
>> 01/04/2008 11:10
>> PM
>>
>>
>> Please respond to
>> bksvol-discuss@fr
>> eelists.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>If a deaf blind person is using a rtf file with a braille display the
>>rtf will showup as grade two braille.
>>
>>E.
>>
>>
>>At 01:38 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote:
>>
>> >So we can make BRF books for the deaf-blind?
>> >
>> >Jim
>> >
>> >James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
>> >james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>> >
>> >"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
>> >world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ann Parsons"
>> > <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>Subject
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>> > 01/04/2008 01:33
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>> >
>> >
>> > Please respond to
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> >Why put Baen books on Bookshare? Baen books are free to the blind.
>> >
>> >Ann P.
>> >
>> >--
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>
> From: "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:59:11 -0500
>
> Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> breaks or
> page numbers and no Copyright info included.
>
> Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Kellie Hartmann" <hart0421@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:08:35 -0600
>
> Hi Guido,
> Is this a legal-sized scanner? I looked at the specs a bit and see that
> the document feeder is, but is the scanning bed itself? Thanks, I'm
> planning for the inevitable demise of my beloved hp4c.
> Kellie
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 06:45:41 -0800 (PST)
> From: Anastasia Saridakis <anamatia81@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning?
>
> I did some research and I found 2 different books on the VA Tech
> tragedy. I am from MD and my brother graduated from Tech in 2005. One of
> the students who was killed had a father who taught at the school. My
> brother took his class. This subject is very close to my heart. My
> question is: is it too soon to put such a book on the site? Anyone on
> the list from the area too? Thank you.
> Anastasia
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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> it now.
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> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice -- EPSON GT-2500
> From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:29:28 -0600
>
> No, the flatbed of the GYT-2500 is standard letter size. The feeder
> may
> accept legal sized documents. If I recall correctly, the feeder also
> supports duplex scanning, that is scanning on both sides of a page. . .
> great for scanning magazines and books that have been 'deboned'--or have
>
> been rendered 'spineless'.
> G.
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
>
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
> "Kellie Hartmann" <hart0421@xxxxxxx>
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 01/07/2008 08:08 AM
> Please respond to
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> To
> <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> cc
>
> Subject
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Guido,
> Is this a legal-sized scanner? I looked at the specs a bit and see that
> the document feeder is, but is the scanning bed itself? Thanks, I'm
> planning for the inevitable demise of my beloved hp4c.
> Kellie
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "solsticesinger" <solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Just submitted
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:30:55 -0600
>
> Hi, all.
>
> I have just submitted, for your validating pleasure, All The Wrong
> Places by
> Karin Kallmaker. This is a lesbian romance, and definitely contains some
>
> adult content. It is in .rtf format, and headers have been removed. The
> synopsis is below.
>
> Brandy Monsoon is looking for love. Since there's never a shortage of
> casual
> playmates at the tropical resort where she works, most of the time she
> gets
> it, too. And if Brandy tires of the perpetually curious - but primarily
> straight - women, there's always her best friend Tess for a friendly
> encounter...
>
>
>
> When an all-lesbian tour group arrives for a week, Brandy is sure she'll
> be
> in-paradise on earth. Among the guests is lesbian celebrity comic Celine
>
> Griffin, who has an obvious interest in an after-dinner Brandy. Celine
> and
> Brandy do find explosive pleasure together, - so why does Brandy feel as
> if
> that's no longer enough for happiness?
>
>
>
> With days and nights so delicious... who cares about tomorrow?
>
>
>
> In All the Wrong Places, Lambda award winner Karin Kallmaker spins
> another
> masterful tale of passion and love.
>
>
>
> Shannon
>
> We are wise, not because we are women, but because we seek wisdom.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Kellie Hartmann" <hart0421@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice -- EPSON GT-2500
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:32:59 -0600
>
> Spineless books, like spineless people, are rather dull. <lol> You're
> right about the duplex; that's what the specs said.
> Thanks,
> Kellie, who's eating cold oatmeal and beef jerky for breakfast
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "solsticesinger" <solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Another submission
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:38:14 -0600
>
> Those Who Save Us by Jenna Blum has been submitted in .rtf format. Here
> is
> the synopsis.
>
> FOR FIFTY YEARS, Anna Schlemmer has refused to talk about her life in
> Germany during World War II. Her daughter, Trudy, was only three when
> she
> and her mother were liberated by an American soldier and went to live
> with
> him in Minnesota. Trudy's sole evidence of the past is an old
> photograph: a
> family portrait showing Anna, Trudy, and a Nazi officer. Trudy, now a
> professor of German history, begins investigating the past and finally
> unearths the heartbreaking truth of her mother's life. Those Who Save Us
> is
> a profound exploration of what we endure to survive and the legacy of
> shame.
>
>
>
> Shannon
>
> We are wise, not because we are women, but because we seek wisdom.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "solsticesinger" <solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Another submission
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:47:13 -0600
>
> I have also submitted Halfway House by Katharine Noel. As usual, it is
> in
> .rtf format. Find the synopsis below.
>
> One day, Angie Voorster-diligent student, all-star swimmer, and Ivy
>
>
>
> League-bound high school senior-dives to the bottom of a pool and stays
>
>
>
> there. In that moment, everything the Voorster family believes they know
>
>
>
> about each other changes. As Angie swings between manic highs and
> dangerous
>
>
>
> lows, the Voorsters struggle to maintain the appearance of an ideal New
> England
>
>
>
> family. It is only when Angie is finally able to fend for herself that
> the
> family allows
>
>
>
> itself to fall apart and then regather in a new, fundamentally changed
> way.
> With grace
>
>
>
> and precision, debut novelist Katharine Noel guides us through a world
> where
> love
>
>
>
> is imperfect, and where longing for an imagined ideal can both destroy
> one
> family's
>
>
>
> happiness and offer it redemption.
>
>
> Shannon
> We are wise, not because we are women, but because we seek wisdom.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Adult Content from NLS, interesting
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:01:24 -0800
>
> Looking at last Set/Oct NLS Braille Book review. Normally I dislike that
> so
> much of the "Adult Fiction" is for junior and senior high readers. Some
> of
> the other books say "explicit descriptions of sex, violence, and strong
> language." Ok. But read the description of this one. If it were being
> scanned into Bookshare would it be marked Adult Content because of the
> sex
> and violence? "Copper Sunday by Sharon Draper, 2 volumes. Amari is taken
> from her African village when she is fifteen and sold to a southern
> plantation owner in America. Amari and Polly, a white indentured
> servant,
> risk everything to escape. Descriptions of sex and violence. For senior
> high
> and older readers. Coretta Scott King Award. 2006."
> And what makes the difference of descriptions of vs. explicit?????
>
> Liz in PDX
>
> Liz Halperin
> Portland, OR
> lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:01:50 -0600
>
> All, I have just downloaded:
> 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
>
> from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> contains
> a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market
>
> edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport
>
> page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> while
> Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document
>
> may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case,
>
> some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
>
> Guido
>
>
>
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
>
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
> "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 01/07/2008 07:59 AM
> Please respond to
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> To
> <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> cc
>
> Subject
> [bksvol-discuss] Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> breaks
> or
> page numbers and no Copyright info included.
>
> Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:03:35 -0800
>
> Please scan it!
> Liz in PDX
>
> Liz Halperin
> Portland, OR
> lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anastasia
> Saridakis
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:46 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning?
>
> I did some research and I found 2 different books on the VA Tech
> tragedy. I
> am from MD and my brother graduated from Tech in 2005. One of the
> students
> who was killed had a father who taught at the school. My brother took
> his
> class. This subject is very close to my heart. My question is: is it too
> soon to put such a book on the site? Anyone on the list from the area
> too?
> Thank you.
>
> Anastasia
>
>
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>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:09:02 -0800 (PST)
> From: jnuttallphd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Submitted: Matrix Energetics
>
> Submitted nonfiction: Matrix Energetics by Richard Bartlett 2007.
> Matrix Energetics a modern display of healing by the laying on of hands.
> Matrix Energetics applies the principles of quantum physics as a unique
> and effective approach to healing. This is the essence of energy
> medicine."
> Easy validation:
> -headers removed
> -page numbers validated, blank pages labeled and numbered
> -carefully spellchecked.
> -pages separated with page break.
>
> Jim Nuttall
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "solsticesinger" <solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] One last submission
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:38:24 -0600
>
> The last submission for today is Miracles Happen: One Mother, One
> Daughter,
> one Journey by Brooke and Jean Ellison. This is in .rtf format.
>
> This is the story of Brooke Ellison, who was paralyzed in 1990, at the
> age
> of eleven, and of Jean, her mother, who became Brooke's primary
> caregiver,
> even going so far as to go to Harvard with her.
>
> Shannon
> We are wise, not because we are women, but because we seek wisdom.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Amber" <amberanddottie@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:45:21 -0600
>
> yes I have a lide 70 and I love it I got my scanner online at the Cano
> internet store Amber, G.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Monica Willyard
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:17 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
> Hi. If you're looking for a small, fast scanner, you might consider
> the Canon LIde scanners. I have used them for years, and they work well.
> I have owned a LiDe 30 and a LiDe 70, and both of them have served me
> well. The LiDe 30 scanned over a thousand books for me before it died
> after around five years of almost daily use. The software that comes
> with this line of scanners stays out of the way and doesn't interfere
> with Kurzweil in any way. I bought mine from Office Depot, and Staples
> has these scanners too. This scanner is light and slim enough to fit
> into a laptop bag, so it can travel with you if you're in school or want
> to scan a reference book at your library. I'm interested to see what
> others will recommend for you. I hope this helps.
>
> Monica Willyard
>
>
> Siobhan wrote:
> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them
> again. they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with
> out help, so unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one.
> I'm not a brand hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one
> so it won't take up room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive.
>
>
>
>
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 12:50:35 -0500
>
> Hi Guido,
> Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> it
> look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> character codes for the page breaks?
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>
>
>
>
>
> "Guido Corona"
>
> <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
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> again - how do we submit them?
>
> 01/07/2008 11:01
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> AM
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>
> Please respond to
>
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>
> All, I have just downloaded:
>
>
> 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
>
>
> from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> contains
> a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass
> market
> edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to
> sport
> page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> while
> Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the
> document
> may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the
> case,
> some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
>
>
> Guido
>
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
> "Dan Beaver"
>
> <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
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> again - how do we submit them?
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> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> breaks
> or
> page numbers and no Copyright info included.
>
> Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
>
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:55:44 -0600
>
> It is worth pointing out that Canon Light scanners use CIS image
> sensors.
> This sensors are not quite as good as the CCD sensors employed in larger
>
> scanners; they frequently yield slightly noisy images that have the
> additional tendency to fall apart towards the spine of the book because
> of
> poor depth of field. These in turn yield less accurate OCR conversions.
>
> Bottom line is that while light scanners are great for portability,
> bigger
> / non portable scanners with CCD imagers are more accurate and in the
>
> end may save editing/validation time.
> G.
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
>
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
> "Amber" <amberanddottie@xxxxxxx>
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> yes I have a lide 70 and I love it I got my scanner online at the Cano
> internet store Amber, G.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Monica Willyard
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:17 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
> Hi. If you're looking for a small, fast scanner, you might consider the
> Canon LIde scanners. I have used them for years, and they work well. I
> have owned a LiDe 30 and a LiDe 70, and both of them have served me
> well.
> The LiDe 30 scanned over a thousand books for me before it died after
> around five years of almost daily use. The software that comes with this
>
> line of scanners stays out of the way and doesn't interfere with
> Kurzweil
> in any way. I bought mine from Office Depot, and Staples has these
> scanners too. This scanner is light and slim enough to fit into a laptop
>
> bag, so it can travel with you if you're in school or want to scan a
> reference book at your library. I'm interested to see what others will
> recommend for you. I hope this helps.
>
> Monica Willyard
>
>
> Siobhan wrote:
> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them again.
>
> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out help,
>
> so unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a
> brand hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it
> won't
> take up room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:15:00 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Star Wars books
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
> At the end of the Star Wars book I just validated is a list of other
> Star
> Wars books. I thought I'd post the list, and what I see, at a quick
> glance, that Bookshare already has. If some Star Wars fan sees one they
> fancy that we don't have, maybe someone will be moved to scan it.
> Offhand, I notice we have book 3 of the Corellian series, but not 1 or
> 2.
>
> Ignore the page numbers that are still in the list.
>
>
> Bookshare has:
> New Rebellion
> Rogue Squadron #1
> The Approaching Storm
> Showdown at Centerpoint (book 3 in Corellian series)
> The Truce at Bakura
> Heir to the Empire
> Dark Force Rising
> The Last Command
>
>
>
> THE TRUCE AT BAKURA by Kathy Tyers
> Setting: Immediately after Return of the Jedi
> The day after his climactic battle with Emperor Palpatine and the
> sacrifice of his father, Darth Vader, who died saving his life, Luke
> Skywalker helps recover an Imperial drone ship bearing a startling
> message
> intended for the Emperor. It is a distress signal from the far-off
> Imperial outpost of Bakura, which is under attack by an alien invasion
> force, the Ssi-ruuk. Leia sees a rescue mission as an opportunity to
> achieve a diplomatic victory for the Rebel Alliance, even if it means
> fighting alongside former Imperials. But Luke receives a vision from
> Obi-Wan Kenohi revealing that the stakes are even higher: the invasion
> at
> Bakura threatens everything the Rebels have won at such great cost.
>
> STAR WARS: X-WING
> by Michael A. Stackpole
> ROGUE SQUADRON
> WEDGE'S GAMBLE
> THE KRYTOS TRAP
> THE BACTA WAR
> Setting: Three years after Return of the Jedi
> Inspired by X-wing, the bestselling computer game from LucasArts
> Entertainment Co., this exciting series chronicles the further
> adventures
> of the most feared and fearless fighting force in the galaxy. A new
> generation of X-wing pilots, led by Commander Wedge Antilles, is
> combating
> the remnants of the Empire still left after the events of the STAR WARS
> movies. Here are novels full of explosive space action, nonstop
> adventure,
> and the special brand of wonder known as STAR WARS.
> In this very early scene, young Corellian pilot Corran Horn faces a
> tough
> challenge fast enough to get his heart pounding- and this is
>
> 391
>
> only a simulation! [P.S.: "Whistler" is Corran's R2 axtnimech droid]:
> The Corellian brought his proton torpedo targeting program up and locked
> on to the TIE. It tried (o break (he lock, but turbolasur fire from the
> Komlev boxed it in. Corran's heads-up display went red and he triggered
> the torpedo. "Scratch one eyeball."
> The missile shot straight in at the fighter, but the pilot broke hard to
> port and away, causing the missile to overshoot the target. Nice flying!
> Corran brought his X-wing over and started down to loop in behind the
> TIE,
> but as he did so. the TIE vanished from his forward screen and
> reappeared
> in his aft are. Yanking the stick hard to the right and pulling it back,
> Corran wrestled the X-wing up and to starboard, then inverted and rolled
> out to the left.
> A laser shot jolted a tremor through the simulator's couch. Lucky thing
> I
> had all shields aft! Corran reinforced them with energy from his lasers,
> then evened them out fore and aft. Jinking the fighter right and left,
> he
> avoided laser shots coming in from behind, but they all came in far
> closer
> than he liked.
> He knew Jacc had been in the bomber, and Jacc was the only pilot in the
> unit who could have stayed with him. Except for our leader. Corran
> smiled
> broadly. Coming to see how good I really am. Commander Antilles? Let me
> give you a clinic. "Make sure you're in there solid, Whistler, because
> we're going for a little ride."
> Corran refused to let the R2's moan slow him down. A snap-roll brought
> the
> X-wing up on its port wing. Pulling back on the stick yanked the
> fighter's
> nose up away from the original line of flight. The TIE stayed with him,
> then tightened up on the arc to close distance. Corran then rolled
> another
> ninety degrees and continued the turn into a dive. Throttling back,
> Corran
> hung in the dive for three seconds, then hauled back hard on the stick
> and
> cruised up into the TIE fighter's aft.
> The X-wing's laser fire missed wide to the right as the TIE cut to the
> left. Corran kicked his speed up to full and broke with the TIE. He let
> the X-wing rise above the plane of the break, then put the fighter
> through
> a twisting roll that ate up enough time to bring him again into the
> TIE's
> rear. The TIE snapped to the right and Corran looped out left.
> He watched the tracking display as the distance between them grew to be
> a
> kilometer and a half, then slowed, fine, you want to go nose to nose? I
> 've got shields and you don't. If Commander Antilles wanted to commit
> virtual suicide, Corran was happy to oblige him. He tugged
>
> 392
>
> the stick back to his sternum and rolled out in an inversion loop.
> Coming
> at you!
> The two starfighters closed swiftly. Corran centered his foe in the
> crosshairs and waited for a dead shot. Without shields the TIE fighter
> would die with one burst, and Corran wanted the kill to be clean. His
> HUD
> flicked green as the TIE juked in and out of the center, then locked
> green
> as they closed.
> The TIE started firing at maximum range and scored hits. At that
> distance
> the lasers did no real damage against the shields, prompting Corran to
> wonder why Wedge was wasting the energy. Then, as the HUD's green color
> started to flicker, realization dawned. The bright bursts on the shields
> are a distraction to my targeting! I better kill him now!
> Corran tightened down on the trigger button, sending red laser needles
> stabbing out at the closing TIE fighter. He couldn't tell if he had hit
> anything. Lights flashed in the cockpit and Whistler started screeching
> furiously. Corran's main monitor went black, his shields were down, and
> his weapons controls were dead.
> The pilot looked left and right. "Where is he, Whistler?"
> The monitor in front of him flickered to life and a diagnostic report
> began to scroll by. Bloodred bordered the damage reports. "Scanners,
> out;
> lasers, out; shields, out; engine, out! I'm a wallowing Hutt just
> hanging
> here in space."
>
> THE COURTSHIP OF PRINCESS LEIA
> by Dave Wolverton Setting: Four years after Return of the Jedi
> One of the most interesting developments in Bantam's Star Wars novels is
> that in their storyline. Han Solo and Princess Leia start a family. This
> tale reveals how the couple originally got together. Wishing to
> strengthen
> the fledgling New Republic by bringing in powerful allies, Leia opens
> talks with the Hopes consortium of more than sixty worlds. But the
> consortium is ruled by the Queen Mother, who, to Han's dismay, wants
> Leia
> to marry her son. Prince holder. Before this action-packed story is
> over,
> Luke will join forces with holder against a group of Force-trained
> "witches" and face a deadly foe.
>
> 393
>
> HEIR TO THE EMPIRE DARK FORCE RISING THE LAST COMMAND
> by Timothy Zahn
> Setting: Five years after Return of the Jedi
> This bestselling trilogy introduces two legendary forces of evil into
> the
> Star Wars literary pantheon. Grand Admiral Thrawn has taken control of
> the
> Imperial fleet in the years since the destruction of the Death Star, and
> the mysterious Joruus C'baoth is a fearsome Jedi Master who has been
> seduced by the dark side. Han and Leia have now been married for about a
> year, and as the story begins, she is pregnant with twins. Thrawn's plan
> is to crush the Rebellion and resurrect the Empire's New Order with
> C'baoth's help--and in return, the Dark Master will get Han and Leia 's
> Jedi children to mold as he wishes. For as readers of this magnificent
> trilogy will see, Luke Skywalker is not the last of the old Jedi. He is
> the first of the new.
> The Jedi Academy Trilogy:
> JEDISEARCH
> DARK APPRENTICE
> CHAMPIONS OF THE FORCE
> by Kevin J. Anderson Setting: Seven years after Return of the Jedi
> In order to assure the continuation of the Jedi Knights, Luke Skywalker
> has decided to start a training facility: a Jedi Academy. He will gather
> force-sensitive students who show potential as prospective Jedi and
> serve
> as their mentor, as Jedi Masters Obi-Wan Kenohi and Yoda did for him.
> Han
> and Leia's twins are now toddlers, and there is a third Jedi child: the
> infant Anakin, named after Luke and Leia's father. In this trilogy, we
> discover the existence of a powerful imperial doomsday weapon, the
> horrifying Sun Crusher--which will soon become the centerpiece of a
> titanic struggle between Luke Skywalker and his most brilliant Jedi
> Academy student, who is delving dangerously into the dark side.
>
> 394
>
> CHILDREN OF THE JEDI by Barbara Hambly
> Setting: Eight years after Return of the Jedi
> The Star Wars characters face a menace from the glory days of the Empire
> when a thirty-year-old automated Imperial Dreadnought comes to life and
> begins its grim mission: to gather forces and annihilate a
> long-forgotten
> stronghold of Jedi children. When Luke is whisked onboard, he begins to
> communicate with the brave Jedi Knight who paralyzed the ship decades
> ago,
> and gave her life in the process. Now she is part of the vessel,
> existing
> in its artificial intelligence core, and guiding Luke through one of the
> most unusual adventures he has ever had.
> In this scene, Luke discovers that an evil presence is gathering, one
> that
> will force him to join the battle:
> Like See-Threepio, Nichos Marr sat in the outer room of the suite to
> which
> Cray had been assigned, in the power-down mode that was the droid
> equivalent of rest. Like Threepio, at the sound of Luke's almost
> noiseless
> tread he turned his head, aware of his presence.
> "Luke?" Cray had equipped him with the most sensitive vocal modulators,
> and the word was calibrated to a whisper no louder than the rustle of
> the
> blueleaves massed outside the windows. He rose, and crossed to where
> Luke
> stood, the dull silver of his arms and shoulders a phantom gleam in the
> stray flickers of light. "What is it?"
> "I don't know." They retreated to the small dining area where Luke had
> earlier probed his mind, and Luke stretched up to pin back a corner of
> the
> lamp-sheath, letting a slim triangle of butter-colored light fall on the
> purple of the vulwood tabletop. "A dream. A premonition, maybe." It was
> on
> his lips to ask, Do you dream? but he remembered the ghastly, imageless
> darkness in Nichos's mind, and didn't. He wasn't sure if his pupil was
> aware of the difference from his human perception and knowledge, aware
> of
> just exactly what he'd lost when his consciousness, his self, had been
> transferred.
> In the morning Luke excused himself from the expedition Tomla El had
> organized with Nichos and Cray to the Falls of Dessiar, one of the
> places
> on Ithor most renowned for its beauty and peace. When they left he
> sought
> out Umwaw Moolis, and the tall herd leader listened gravely to his less
> than logical request and promised to put matters in train to fulfill it.
> Then Luke descended to the House of the Healers, where Drub McKumb lay,
> sedated far beyond pain but with all the perceptions of agony and
> nightmare still howling in his mind.
>
> 395
>
> "Kill you!" He heaved himself at the restraints, blue eyes glaring
> furiously as he groped and scrabbled at Luke with his clawed hands.
> "It's
> all poison! I see you! I see the dark light all around you! You're him!
> You're him!" His back bent like a bow; the sound of his shrieking was
> like
> something being ground out of him by an infernal mangle.
> Luke had been through the darkest places of the universe and of his own
> mind, had done and experienced greater evil than perhaps any man had
> known
> on the road the Force had dragged him . . . Still, it was hard not to
> turn
> away.
> "We even tried yarrock on him last night," explained the Healer in
> charge,
> a slightly built Ithoriiin beautifully tabby-striped green and yellow
> under her simple tabard of purple linen. "But apparently the earlier
> doses
> that brought him enough lucidity to reach here from his point of origin
> oversensitized his system. We'll try again in four or five days."
> Luke gazed down into the contorted, grimacing face.
> "As you can see," the Healer said, "the internal perception of pain and
> fear is slowly lessening. It's down to ninety-three percent of what it
> was
> when he was first brought in. Not much, I know, but something."
> "Him! Him! HIM!" Foam spattered the old man's stained gray beard.
> Who?
> "I wouldn't advise attempting any kind of mindlink until it's at least
> down to fifty percent. Master Skywalker."
> "No," said Luke softly.
> Kill you all. And, They are gathering . . .
> "Do you have recordings of everything he's said?"
> "Oh, yes." The big coppery eyes blinked assent. "The transcript is
> available through the monitor cubicle down the hall. We could make
> nothing
> of them. Perhaps they will mean something to you."
> They didn't. Luke listened to them all, the incoherent groans and
> screams,
> the chewed fragments of words that could be only guessed at, and now and
> again the clear disjointed cries: "Solo! Solo! Can you hear me? Children
> .
> . . Evil . . . Gathering here . . . Kill you all!"
>
> 396
>
> DARKSABER by Kevin J. Anderson Setting: Immediately thereafter
> Not long after Children of the Jedi, Luke and Han learn that evil Hutts
> are building a reconstruction of the original Death Star--and that the
> Empire is still alive, in the form ofDaala, who has joined forces with
> Pellaeon, former second in command to the feared Grand Admiral Thrawn.
> In
> this early scene, Luke has returned to the home of Obi-Wan Kenobi on
> Tatooine to try and consult a long-gone mentor:
> He stood anxious and alone, feeling like a prodigal son outside the
> ramshackle, collapsed hut that had once been the home of Obi-Wan Kenobi.
> Luke swallowed and stepped forward, his footsteps crunching in the
> silence. He had not been here in many years. The door had fallen off its
> hinges; part of the clay front wall had fallen in. Boulders and crumbled
> adobe jammed the entrance. A pair of small, screeching desert rodents
> snapped at him and fled for cover; Luke ignored them.
> Gingerly, he ducked low and stepped into the home of his first mentor.
> Luke stood in the middle of the room breathing deeply, turning around,
> trying to sense the presence he desperately needed to see. This was the
> place where Obi-Wan Kenobi had told Luke of the Force. Here, the old man
> had first given Luke his lightsaber and hinted at the truth about his
> father, "from a certain point of view," dispelling the diversionary
> story
> that Uncle Owen had told, at the same time planting seeds of his own
> deceptions.
> "Ben," he said and closed his eyes, calling out with his mind as well as
> his voice. He tried to penetrate the invisible walls of the Force and
> reach to the luminous being of Obi-Wan Kenobi who had visited him
> numerous
> times, before saying he could never speak with Luke again.
> "Ben, I need you," Luke said. Circumstances had changed. He could think
> of
> no other way past the obstacles he faced. Obi-Wan had to answer. It
> wouldn't take long, but it could give him the key he needed with all his
> heart.
> Luke paused and listened and sensed- -
> But felt nothing. If he could not summon Obi-Wan's spirit here in the
> empty dwelling where the old man had lived in exile for so many years,
> Luke didn't believe he could find his former teacher ever again.
> He echoed the words Leia had used more than a decade earlier,
>
> 397
>
> beseeching him, "Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi," Luke whispered, "you're my
> only
> hope."
> THE CRYSTAL STAR
> by Vonda N. Mcintyre
> Setting: Ten years after Return of the Jedi
> Leia 's three children have been kidnapped. That horrible fact is made
> worse by Leia's realization that she can no longer sense her children
> through the Force! While she, Artoo-Detoo, and Chewbacca trail the
> kidnappers, Luke and Han discover a planet that is suffering strange
> quantum effects from a nearby star. Slowly freezing into a perfect
> crystal
> and disrupting the Force, the star is blunting Luke's power and
> crippling
> the Millennium Falcon. These strands converge in an apocalyptic threat
> not
> only to the fate of the New Republic, but to the universe itself.
>
> The Black Fleet Crisis
> BEFORE THE STORM
> SHIELD OF LIES
> TYRANT'S TEST
> by Michael P. Kube-McDowell
> Setting: Twelve years after Return of the Jedi
> Long after setting up the hard-won New Republic, yesterday's Rebels have
> become today's administrators and diplomats. But the peace is not to
> last
> for long. A restless Luke must journey to his mother's homeworld in a
> desperate quest to find her people; Lando seizes a mysterious spacecraft
> with unimaginable weapons of destruction; and waiting in the wings is an
> horrific battle fleet under the control of a ruthless leader bent on a
> genocidal war.
> Here is an opening scene from Before the Storm:
> In the pristine silence of space, the Fifth Battle Group of the New
> Republic Defense Fleet blossomed over the planet Bessimir like a
> beautiful, deadly flower.
> The formation of capital ships sprang into view with startling
> suddenness,
> trailing fire-white wakes of twisted space and bristling with weapons.
> Angular Star Destroyers guarded fat-hulled fleet carriers, while the
> assault cruisers, their mirror finishes gleaming, took the point.
>
> 398
>
> A halo of smaller ships appeared at the same time. The fighters among
> them
> quickly deployed in a spherical defensive screen. As the Star Destroyers
> firmed up their formation, their flight decks quickly spawned scores of
> additional fighters.
> At the same time, the carriers and cruisers began to disgorge the
> bombers,
> transports, and gunboats they had ferried to the battle. There was no
> reason to risk the loss of one fully loaded--a lesson the Republic had
> learned in pain. At Orinda, the commander of the fleet carrier Endurance
> had kept his pilots waiting in the launch bays, to protect the smaller
> craft from Imperial fire as long as possible. They were still there when
> Endurance took the brunt of a Super Star Destroyer attack and vanished
> in
> a ball of metal fire.
> Before long more than two hundred warships, large and small, were
> bearing
> down on Bessimir and its twin moons. But the terrible, restless power of
> the armada could be heard and felt only by the ships' crews. The silence
> of the approach was broken only on the fleet comm channels, which had
> crackled to life in the first moments with encoded bursts of noise and
> cryptic ship-to-ship chatter.
> At the center of the formation of great vessels was the flagship of the
> Fifth Battle Group, the fleet carrier Intrepid, She was so new from the
> yards at Hakassi that her corridors still recked of scaling compound and
> cleaning solvent. Her huge realspace thruster engines still sang with
> the
> high-pitched squeal that the engine crews called "the baby's cry."
> It would take more than a year for the mingled scents of the crew to
> displace the chemical smells from the first impressions of visitors. But
> after a hundred more hours under way, her engines' vibrations would drop
> two octaves, to the reassuring thrum of a seasoned thruster bank.
> On Intrepid'* bridge, a tall Dornean in general's uniform paced along an
> arc of command stations equipped with large monitors. His eye-folds were
> swollen and fanned by an unconscious Dornean defensive reflex, and his
> leathery face was flushed purple by concern. Before the deployment was
> even a minute old, Etahn A'baht's first command had been bloodied.
> The fleet tender Afiazi had overshot its jump, coming out of hyperspace
> too close to Bessimir and too late for its crew to recover from the
> error.
> Etahn A'baht watched the bright flare of light in the upper atmosphere
> from Intrepid^s forward viewstation, knowing that it meant six young men
> were dead.
>
> 399
>
> THE NEW REBELLION by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
> Setting: Thirteen years after Return of the Jedi
> Victorious though the New Republic may be. there is still no end to the
> threats to its continuing existence- this novel explores the price of
> keeping the peace. First, somewhere in the galaxy, millions suddenly
> perish in a blinding instant of pain. Then, as Leia prepares to address
> the Senate on Coruscant, a horrifying event changes the governmental
> equation in a flash.
> Here is that latter calamity, in an early scene from The New Rebellion:
> An explosion rocked the Chamber, flinging Leia into the air. She flew
> backward and slammed onto a desk, her entire body shuddering with the
> power of her hit. Blood and shrapnel rained around her. Smoke and dust
> rose, filling the room with a grainy darkness. She could hear nothing.
> With a shaking hand, she touched the side of her face. Warmth stained
> her
> cheeks and her earlobes. The ringing would start soon. The explosion was
> loud enough to affect her eardrums.
> Emergency glow panels seared the gloom. She could feel rather than hear
> pieces of the crystal ceiling fall to the ground. A guard had landed
> beside her, his head tilted at an unnatural angle. She grabbed his
> blaster. She had to get out. She wasn't certain if the attack had come
> from within or from without. Wherever it had come from, she had to make
> certain no other bombs would go off.
> The force of the explosion had affected her balance. She crawled over
> bodies, some still moving, as she made her way to the stairs. The
> slightest movement made her dizzy and nauseous, but she ignored the
> feelings. She had to.
> A face loomed before hers. Streaked with dirt and blood, helmet askew,
> she
> recognized him as one of the guards who had been with her since
> Alderaan.
> Your Highness, he mouthed, and she couldn't read the rest. She shook her
> head at him, gasping at the increased dizziness, and kept going.
> Finally she reached the stairs. She used the remains of a desk to get to
> her feet. Her gown was soaked in blood, sticky, and clinging to her
> legs.
> She held the blaster in front of her, wishing that she could hear. If
> she
> could hear, she could defend herself.
> A hand reached out of the rubble beside her. She whirled, faced it,
> watched as Meido pulled himself out. His slender features were covered
> with dirt, but he appeared unharmed. He saw her blaster and
>
> 400
>
> cringed. She nodded once to acknowledge him, and kept moving. The guard
> was flanking her.
> More rubble dropped from the ceiling. She crouched, hands over her head
> to
> protect herself. Small pebbles pelted her, and the floor shivered as
> large
> chunks of tile fell. Dust rose, choking her. She coughed, feeling it,
> but
> not able to hear it. Within an instant, the Hall had gone from a place
> of
> ceremonial comfort to a place of death.
> The image of the death's-head mask rose in front of her again, this time
> from memory. She had known this was going to happen. Somewhere, from
> some
> part of her Force-sensitive brain, she had seen this. Luke said that
> Jedi
> were sometimes able to see the future. But she had never completed her
> training. She wasn't a Jcdi.
> But she was close enough.
>
> The Corellian Trilogy:
> AMBUSH AT CORELLIA
> ASSAULT AT SELONIA
> SHOWDOWN AT CENTERPOINT
> by Roger MacBride Alien
> Setting: Fourteen years after Return of the Jedi
> This trilogy takes us to Corellia, Him Solo s homcworld. which Han has
> not
> visited in quite some time. A trade summit brings Han, Leia, and the
> children- -now developing their own clear personalities and
> instinctively
> learning more about their innate skills in the Force--into the middle of
> a
> situation that most closely resembles a burning jime. The Corellian
> system
> is on the brink of civil war, there are New Republic intelligence agents
> on a mysterious mission which even Han does not understand, and worst of
> all, a fanatical rebel leader has his hands on a superweapon of
> unimaginable power- -and just wait until you find out who that leader
> is!
> Here is an early scene from Ambush that gives you a wonderful look at
> the
> growing Solo children (the twins are Jacen and Jaina, and their little
> brother is Anakin):
> Anakin plugged the board into the innards of the droid and pressed a
> button. The droid's black, boxy body shuddered awake, it drew in its
> wheels to stand up a bit taller, its status lights lit, and it made a
> sort
> of triple beep. "That's good," he said, and pushed the button again. The
> droid's status lights went out, and its body slumped down again. Anakin
> picked up the next piece, a motivation actuator. He frowned at
>
> 401
>
> it as he turned it over in his hands. He shook his head. "That's not
> good," he announced.
> "What's not good?" Jaina asked.
> "This thing," Anakin said, handing her the actuator. "Can't you telfi
> The
> insides part is all melty."
> Jaina and Jacen exchanged a look. "The outside looks okay," Jaina said,
> giving the part to her brother. "How can he tell what the inside of it
> looks like? It's sealed shut when they make it."
> Anakin, still sitting on the floor, took the device from his brother and
> frowned at it again. He turned it over and over in his hands, and then
> held it over his head and looked at it as if he were holding it up to
> the
> light. "There," he said, pointing a chubby finger at one point on the
> unmarked surface. "In there is the bad part." He rearranged himself to
> sit
> cross-legged, put the actuator in his lap, and put his right index
> finger
> over the "bad" part. "Fix," he said. "Fix." The dark brown outer case of
> the actuator seemed to glow for a second with an odd blue-red light, but
> then the glow sputtered out and Anakin pulled his finger away quickly
> and
> stuck it in his mouth, as if he had burned it on something.
> "Better now?" Jaina asked.
> "Some better," Anakin said, pulling his finger out of his mouth. "Not
> all
> better." He took the actuator in his hand and stood up. He opened the
> access panel on the broken droid and plugged in the actuator. He closed
> the door and looked expectantly at his older brother and sister.
> "Done?" Jaina asked.
> "Done," Anakin agreed. "But I'm not going to push the button." He backed
> well away from the droid, sat down on the floor, and folded his arms.
> Jacen looked at his sister.
> "Not me," she said. "This was your idea."
> Jacen stepped forward to the droid, reached out to push the power button
> from as far away as he could, and then stepped hurriedly back.
> Once again, the droid shuddered awake, rattling a bit this time as it
> did
> so. It pulled its wheels in, lit its panel lights, and made the same
> triple beep. But then its holocam eye viewlens wobbled back and forth,
> and
> its panel lights dimmed and flared. It rolled backward just a bit, and
> then recovered itself.
> "Good morning, young mistress and masters," it said. "How may I surge
> you?"
> Well, one word wrong, but so what? Jacen grinned and clapped his hands
> and
> rubbed them together eagerly. "Good day, droid," he said. They had done
> it! But what to ask for first? "First tidy up this room,"
>
> 402
>
> he said. A simple task, and one that ought to serve as a good test of
> what
> this droid could do.
> Suddenly the droid's overhead access door blew off and there was a flash
> of light from its interior. A thin plume of smoke drifted out of the
> droid. Its panel lights flared again, and then the work arm sagged
> downward. The droid's body, softened by heat, sagged in on itself and
> drooped to the floor. The floor and walls and ceiling of the playroom
> were
> supposed to be fireproof, but nonetheless the floor under the droid
> darkened a bit, and the ceiling turned black. The ventilators kicked on
> high automatically, and drew the smoke out of the room. After a moment
> they shut themselves off, and the room was silent.
> The three children stood, every bit as frozen to the spot as the droid
> was, absolutely stunned. It was Anakin who recovered first. He walked
> cautiously toward the droid and looked at it carefully, being sure not
> to
> get too close or touch it. "Really melty now," he announced, and then
> wandered off to the other side of the room to play with his blocks.
> The twins looked at the droid, and then at each other.
> "We're dead," Jaeen announced, surveying the wreckage.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Star Wars books
> From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:26:06 -0500
>
> Hi,
> I'd be glad to validate when I see any of these.
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:30:24 -0500
>
> Nah, sometimes having books about something like that Stasia can help
> with
> the grieving process.
>
>
> Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
> and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
> juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> Graduate Alumni Association Board
> www.guidedogs.com
>
> More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my
> limitations fall from me, my spirit is free.
> - Helen Keller
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anastasia Saridakis" <anamatia81@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:45 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning?
>
>
> I did some research and I found 2 different books on the VA Tech
> tragedy. I
> am from MD and my brother graduated from Tech in 2005. One of the
> students
> who was killed had a father who taught at the school. My brother took
> his
> class. This subject is very close to my heart. My question is: is it too
>
> soon to put such a book on the site? Anyone on the list from the area
> too?
> Thank you.
>
> Anastasia
>
>
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>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:26:12 -0600
>
> It seems JAWS sees page breaks only in the front matter, but not in the
>
> body of the book. it is possible that page breaks in the body of the
> book
> may be soft breaks induced by K1K and MS Word at different places.
> G.
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
>
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> cc
>
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> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Guido,
> Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> it
> look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> character codes for the page breaks?
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>
>
>
>
> "Guido Corona"
> <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
> m>
> To
>
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> bksvol-discuss-bo
> cc
>
> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> g
> Subject
>
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
> again - how do we submit them?
> 01/07/2008 11:01
> AM
>
>
> Please respond to
> bksvol-discuss@fr
> eelists.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> All, I have just downloaded:
>
>
> 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
>
>
> from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> contains
> a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass
> market
> edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to
> sport
> page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> while
> Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the
> document
> may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the
> case,
> some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
>
>
> Guido
>
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
> "Dan Beaver"
> <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent by:
> To
>
> bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> s.org
> cc
>
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>
> Subject
>
> 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
> again - how do we submit them?
>
>
> Please respond to
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> breaks
> or
> page numbers and no Copyright info included.
>
> Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
>
> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:31:26 -0500
>
> Savage skies is from the same person as well. But the scan look pretty
> good
> that's why I am bothering with it. Thanks for getting it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:03 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing
>
>
>> Grace,
>>
>> I put in a request for Savage Skies. The other two are
>> not in my lbiraries. I see from checking Amazon that
>> they are Harlequin romances. If they were submitted by
>> you-know-who and are in the shape that you describe,
>> the best thing to do, though they sound like delicious
>> reading, is to reject them. If Savage Skies is
>> submitted by the same person, I suggest you reject
>> that, too, and if you do, please let me know and I'll
>> cancel the request.
>>
>> G.Cindy
>>
>> --- Silvara <silvara@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks:
>>>
>>> I am validating 3 books and all 3 have pages missing
>>> or pages need rescanning or both.
>>>
>>> Savage Skies by Cassie Edwards, The Knight's
>>> courtship by Joanne Rock and the Venetian's Mistress
>>> by Anne Elizabeth Cree. If someone could get the
>>> books and scan these pages then these books can
>>> finally be off step 1.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Grace
>>
>>
>> WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is
>> available at
>> http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm
>> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
>> http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm
>>
>> www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads
>>
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:45:53 -0500
>
> Hi Guido,
> Word has both hard and soft page breaks. Do you see both?
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>
>
>
>
>
> "Guido Corona"
>
> <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
>
> m>
> To
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> bksvol-discuss-bo
> cc
> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx "Claire O'Brien"
>
> g <obriencm@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> Subject
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
>
> 01/07/2008 02:26 again - how do we submit them?
>
> PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to
>
> bksvol-discuss@fr
>
> eelists.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It seems JAWS sees page breaks only in the front matter, but not in the
> body of the book. it is possible that page breaks in the body of the
> book
> may be soft breaks induced by K1K and MS Word at different places.
>
> G.
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Sent by:
>
> bksvol-discuss-bounce@freeli
> To
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>
>
> cc
>
>
> 01/07/2008 11:50 AM
> Subject
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
>
> again - how do we submit them?
>
> Please respond to
>
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> g
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Guido,
> Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> it
> look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> character codes for the page breaks?
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>
>
>
>
> "Guido Corona"
> <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
> m>
> To
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> bksvol-discuss-bo
> cc
> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> g
> Subject
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
> again - how do we submit them?
> 01/07/2008 11:01
> AM
>
>
> Please respond to
> bksvol-discuss@fr
> eelists.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> All, I have just downloaded:
>
>
> 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
>
>
> from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> contains
> a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market
> edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport
> page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> while
> Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document
> may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case,
> some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
>
>
> Guido
>
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
> "Dan Beaver"
> <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent by:
> To
> bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> s.org
> cc
>
>
> Subject
> 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
> again - how do we submit them?
>
> Please respond to
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> breaks
> or
> page numbers and no Copyright info included.
>
> Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
>
> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:30:48 -0500
> From: Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
>
> Hi, Anastasia. If a book is on the shelves at a bookstore or library,
> it's never too soon to get it into the collection. (smile)
> Monica Willyard
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 12:43:21 -0800 (PST)
> From: Michael Sestak <mlsestak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>
> The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the
> first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some
> hard page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the bookshare
> software does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think
> soft page breaks exist in the file, I think word just puts them in on
> the fly).
> Misha
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>
>
> Hi Guido,
> Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> it
> look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> character codes for the page breaks?
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>
>
>
>
>
> "Guido Corona"
>
> <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
>
> m>
> To
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> bksvol-discuss-bo
> cc
> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> g
> Subject
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
>
> again - how do we submit them?
>
> 01/07/2008 11:01
>
> AM
>
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to
>
> bksvol-discuss@fr
>
> eelists.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> All, I have just downloaded:
>
>
> 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
>
>
> from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> contains
> a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass
> market
> edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to
> sport
> page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> while
> Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the
> document
> may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the
> case,
> some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
>
>
> Guido
>
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right
> who
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
> "Dan Beaver"
>
> <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Sent by:
> To
> bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist
> <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> s.org
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
> 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
>
> again - how do we submit
> them?
>
>
> Please respond to
>
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> breaks
> or
> page numbers and no Copyright info included.
>
> Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work
> on?
>
> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Pat Price" <patlprice@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Hooked On Books Is Back Tomorrow, Tuesday,
> 1-8-08
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:47:09 -0500
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> First, let me say that I hope you had both a happy and joy filled
> Christmas
> and New Year celebration with those you love most.
>
> Now that the holidays are behind us for another year, it is time to
> return
> to another love we share, and that is exactly what Hooked on Books is
> all
> about.
>
> Tomorrow at 11 A.M. pacific, noon Mountain, 1 P.M. central and 2 P.M.
> Eastern time, we will begin the new year with a new book. Let me tell
> you
> just a little bit about what we will be reading together.
>
> Karen E. Bender's debut novel, Like Normal People takes place over the
> course of just one day, but as some days often do, it has profound and
> long
> lasting effects for the characters. On the day in question in this
> novel. a
> 48 year old mentally challenged woman decides to change her life by
> leaving
> her comfortable home in which she lives with her widowed mother.
> Accompanying her on this journey is her troubled 12 year old niece. Why
> has
> she chosen this step? What will the two of them do while gone? How will
> those left home both to wonder and to worry deal with this sudden
> surprise?
> Is it sudden at all? What will Lena and her niece discover about
> themselves? How can life ever return to normal again? Does Lena have
> longings and dreams to realize that will require new levels of
> understanding and growth her mother will struggle with which to come to
> terms? How will this affect her mother's view of her own life? How much
> does
> letting go and accepting change affect a mother's feeling of being
> needed
> and her place in the world? What does letting go cost?
>
> Come feel with me what Karen's characters feel! Together, Karen Bender
> will
> share with us what a family learns about growth and love and need, but
> the
> journey there will rock the foundation of life as they have known it.
>
> All of this can be experienced when you join us in the Friends of
> Bookshare
> In between The Bookends room by going to the link below.
>
>
> http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rs83ce590a4853
>
>
> I promise to do my part to give you a pleasurable afternoon. Relax,
> bring a
> hobby you can do while listening. I look forward to reading to you
> there!
>
> If you have questions, please write to me at:
> Bonnie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:54:52 -0500
>
> There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their page
> numbers. Not all books have correct page breaks. I just downloaded two
> books for comparison purposes. One had no hard page breaks, the other,
> had
> some hard page breaks and other soft breaks. Guido, the version you
> downloaded, how many sections does Word report having in that file? I
> suspect that that particular book probably has the infamous section
> breaks
> that FR is so fond of inserting instead of hard page breaks. That
> probably
> is the reason why Kurzweil 1000 decided not to like those pages too.
>
>
> Prat
>
>
>
>
>
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Sestak
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:43 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>
>
>
> The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the
> first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some
> hard
> page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the bookshare
> software
> does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think soft page
> breaks exist in the file, I think word just puts them in on the fly).
>
> Misha
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>
> Hi Guido,
> Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> it
> look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> character codes for the page breaks?
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>
>
>
>
>
> "Guido Corona"
>
> <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
>
> m> To
>
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> bksvol-discuss-bo
> cc
> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> g Subject
>
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
>
> again - how do we submit them?
>
> 01/07/2008 11:01
>
> AM
>
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to
>
> bksvol-discuss@fr
>
> eelists.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> All, I have just downloaded:
>
>
> 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
>
>
> from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> contains
> a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market
> edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport
> page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> while
> Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document
> may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case,
> some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
>
>
> Guido
>
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
> "Dan Beaver"
>
> <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Sent by: To
>
> bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> s.org
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
> 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
>
> again - how do we submit them?
>
>
>
> Please respond to
>
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> breaks
> or
> page numbers and no Copyright info included.
>
> Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
>
> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
> of
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>
>
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> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:09:18 -0600
>
> That's entirely possible Prat. How do we check for 'section breaks' in
> MS
> Word / JFW? G.
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
>
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
> "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 01/07/2008 02:54 PM
> Please respond to
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> To
> <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> cc
>
> Subject
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their page
> numbers. Not all books have correct page breaks. I just downloaded two
>
> books for comparison purposes. One had no hard page breaks, the other,
> had some hard page breaks and other soft breaks. Guido, the version you
>
> downloaded, how many sections does Word report having in that file? I
> suspect that that particular book probably has the infamous section
> breaks
> that FR is so fond of inserting instead of hard page breaks. That
> probably is the reason why Kurzweil 1000 decided not to like those pages
>
> too.
>
> Prat
>
>
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Sestak
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:43 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>
> The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the
>
> first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some
> hard
> page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the bookshare
> software
> does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think soft page
> breaks exist in the file, I think word just puts them in on the fly).
>
> Misha
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>
> Hi Guido,
> Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> it
> look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> character codes for the page breaks?
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>
>
>
>
> "Guido Corona"
> <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
> m> To
>
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> bksvol-discuss-bo
> cc
> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> g Subject
>
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
> again - how do we submit them?
> 01/07/2008 11:01
> AM
>
>
> Please respond to
> bksvol-discuss@fr
> eelists.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> All, I have just downloaded:
>
>
> 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
>
>
> from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> contains
> a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market
> edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport
> page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> while
> Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document
> may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case,
> some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
>
>
> Guido
>
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
> "Dan Beaver"
> <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent by: To
>
> bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> s.org
> cc
>
>
> Subject
> 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
> again - how do we submit them?
>
>
> Please respond to
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> breaks
> or
> page numbers and no Copyright info included.
>
> Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
>
> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
>
> of
> available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
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> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
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> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
> line.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Ann Parsons <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] 16 Lighthouse Road
> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:53:06 -0500
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was reading the Booksfortheblind list and a bookshare member
> downloaded the book in the subj line, by Debbie Macomber. She
> downloaded the DAISY format. She said that all she got was page
> numbers. Has anyone read this book recently or downloaded it at all?
> If it is indeed corrupt and not a munged download, it should probably
> be removed or reencoded. The BRF file's fine, I downloaded that.
>
> TIA,
> Ann P.
>
> --
> Ann K. Parsons
> Portal Tutoring
> EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.portaltutoring.info
> "All that is gold does not glitter,
> Not all those who wander are lost."
>
> Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit
> www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tables converting to text Jamie's great tip
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:07:47 -0500
>
> Dear Booksharian Friends
>
> I'd rather not know how many hours I've struggled to replace tables with
>
> text. Often the columns are off and get more unmatched as the table
> continues. Often JAWS and I have mixed results trying to read the table
> and
> editing it is nearly impossible, especially getting mismatched columns
> to
> line up properly.
>
> Recently Jamie sent the following instructions to the list. Her I did a
> find
> to locate her message and it saved me a huge amount of work on a book
> I'll
> be able to upload early this evening.
>
> Here is her short, very effective tip for converting tables to text in
> Microsoft word.
>
> To convert a table in word you just make sure your cursor is in the
> table,
> press Alt-A for the table menu, V for convert and B for table to text.
>
> This tip has made editing so fast and easy and the resulting
> information in
> text format conveyed the table information exactly. It is very hard for
> some
> people to visually skip the wide distance between columns in some tables
> and
> remain on the same line. In text, these columns can be separated by
> commas
> or dashes or whatever.
>
> When you press b, in the last step of Jamie's tip, you get a dialogue
> box
> where you can choose how you want to separate columns with tabs, etc.
> There
> is even a place to type in how you want to mark the gap between or start
> of
> information in the next column.
>
> I went to Jakes site to see if Jamie's tip, or one like it was there and
>
> didn't find it. I don't know if my link is as up to date as it should
> be,
> but her tip really belongs on the list of Jakes tips. Cindy W, you might
>
> also want to include this tip in the manual you are developing adding
> information about the dialogue box which pops up when you press the b.
>
> Thank you, Jamie!
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:09:59 -0500
>
> Hi Guido,
>
>
> Word 2007 reports Section X of Y on the status bar if there are multiple
> sections in a file. I don't recall 2003 reporting that info. But, try
> Insert+PGDN (or JAWS+Page down). I must say Word 2007 is a lot better
> at
> reporting relevant info. If you don't find that info, try doing a
> global
> replace for ^b with ^m and see what's reported. If word manages to
> replace
> multiple occurrences, you can safely assume that it was the case. In
> any
> case, it doesn't hirt to replace section breaks with hard page breaks.
> If
> you do have multiple occurrences and manage to replace them, save the
> file
> and reopen it in Kurzweil 1000. Now Kurzweil 1000 should reportcorrect
> number of pages.
>
>
>
> Prat
>
>
>
>
>
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Guido Corona
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:09 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>
>
>
>
> That's entirely possible Prat. How do we check for 'section breaks' in
> MS
> Word / JFW? G.
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: <http://www.ibm.com/able> http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
>
> "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> 01/07/2008 02:54 PM
>
>
> Please respond to
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> To
>
> <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
>
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their page
> numbers. Not all books have correct page breaks. I just downloaded two
> books for comparison purposes. One had no hard page breaks, the other,
> had
> some hard page breaks and other soft breaks. Guido, the version you
> downloaded, how many sections does Word report having in that file? I
> suspect that that particular book probably has the infamous section
> breaks
> that FR is so fond of inserting instead of hard page breaks. That
> probably
> is the reason why Kurzweil 1000 decided not to like those pages too.
>
> Prat
>
>
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Sestak
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:43 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>
> The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the
> first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some
> hard
> page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the bookshare
> software
> does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think soft page
> breaks exist in the file, I think word just puts them in on the fly).
>
> Misha
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>
> Hi Guido,
> Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> it
> look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> character codes for the page breaks?
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>
>
>
>
>
> "Guido Corona"
>
> <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
> m> To
> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> bksvol-discuss-bo cc
>
> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> g Subject
> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
>
> again - how do we submit them?
>
> 01/07/2008 11:01
>
> AM
>
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to
> bksvol-discuss@fr
> eelists.org <http://eelists.org/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> All, I have just downloaded:
>
>
> 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
>
>
> from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> contains
> a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market
> edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport
> page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> while
> Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document
> may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case,
> some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
>
>
> Guido
>
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
> "Dan Beaver"
>
> <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Sent by: To
>
> bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> s.org <http://s.org/>
> cc
>
>
> Subject
>
> 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
>
> again - how do we submit them?
>
>
>
> Please respond to
>
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> breaks
> or
> page numbers and no Copyright info included.
>
> Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
>
> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Clarification on Tables
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:25:25 -0500
>
> Dear Jake,
> I just found your message advising us to leave tables in tact. As long
> as we don't mess with the content, if the tables are easier to read as
> text, is it too bad a thing to convert them to text? Really, the tables
> I get while validating often have errors which are a bear to tackle
> within the table format, and I'd regret having to reconvert back to a
> table after I corrected it because I think they are a nightmare for
> visual readers, as in low vision visual readers...
>
> I'm asking permission to break the rules, but admit that if I don't get
> it, I might go underground in good conscience.
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jake Brownell
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 5:06 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Clarification on Tables
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Recently there were some questions about tables in Bookshare books.
> The Bookshare tools do in fact recognize tables, so please leave tables
> in tact where there should be tables. The VM does mention tables as they
> relate to scanning (in section 4), but I'll see if there is a better
> place to mention it, perhaps in the section about cleaning up books,
> which would apply to both scanners and validators.
>
> Sincerely,
> Jake
>
> Jake Brownell
> jakeb@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:28:00 -0500
> From: talmage@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
>
> Hi Guido,
>
> In the word find field enter a ^b to search for section breaks. If
> you find them, which I kind of doubt you will since the books are
> meant to be viewed on a computer screen, you can replace them with ^m
> for a normal page break. I say a normal page break, as that's what
> MS in its infinite wisdom decided to use when they pushed rtf. I
> don't know why they felt the need to move away from the old ASCII
> standard page break of ^l, but that's MS for you.
> On another note look at all the folks that missed you when you
> weren't here! It makes me think of that country western song, "How
> can I miss you when you won't go away."
>
> Dave
>
> At 04:09 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote:
>
>>That's entirely possible Prat. How do we check for 'section breaks'
>>in MS Word / JFW? G.
>>
>>
>>Guido Dante Corona
>>IBM Research,
>>Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
>>Austin Tx.
>>Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
>>Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>Web: <http://www.ibm.com/able>http://www.ibm.com/able
>>
>>". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right
>>who were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those
>>who questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
>>[David Poyer, The Command]
>>
>>
>>
>>"Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>01/07/2008 02:54 PM
>>Please respond to
>>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>To
>><bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>cc
>>Subject
>>[bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their
>>page numbers. Not all books have correct page breaks. I just
>>downloaded two books for comparison purposes. One had no hard page
>>breaks, the other, had some hard page breaks and other soft
>>breaks. Guido, the version you downloaded, how many sections does
>>Word report having in that file? I suspect that that particular
>>book probably has the infamous section breaks that FR is so fond of
>>inserting instead of hard page breaks. That probably is the reason
>>why Kurzweil 1000 decided not to like those pages too.
>>
>>Prat
>>
>>
>>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[<mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:bksvol-discuss-boun
> ce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>On Behalf Of Michael Sestak
>>Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:43 PM
>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>>
>>The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to
>>the first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe
>>some hard page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the
>>bookshare software does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I
>>don't think soft page breaks exist in the file, I think word just
>>puts them in on the fly).
>>
>>Misha
>>----- Original Message ----
>>From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
>>
>>Hi Guido,
>>Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> it
>>look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
>>character codes for the page breaks?
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
>><mailto:james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>>
>>"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> the
>>world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Guido Corona"
>> <<mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxx>guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>> m>
> To
>> Sent
>> by:
>> <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> bksvol-discuss-bo
> cc
>> <mailto:unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx>unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> g
> Subject
>> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
>> again - how do we submit them?
>> 01/07/2008 11:01
>> AM
>>
>>
>> Please respond to
>> bksvol-discuss@fr
>> <http://eelists.org/>eelists.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>All, I have just downloaded:
>>
>>
>> 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
>>
>>
>>from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> contains
>>a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass
> market
>>edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to
> sport
>>page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> while
>>Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the
> document
>>may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the
> case,
>> some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
>>
>>
>> Guido
>>
>>
>>
>>Guido Dante Corona
>>IBM Research,
>>Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
>>Austin Tx.
>>Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
>>Email: <mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>Web: <http://www.ibm.com/able>http://www.ibm.com/able
>>
>>". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right
> who
>>were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
>>questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> wise."
>>[David Poyer, The Command]
>>
>>
>>
>>"Dan Beaver"
>><<mailto:dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>Sent by:
> To
>>bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist
>><<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>><http://s.org/>s.org
>>cc
>>
>>
> Subject
>>01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
>> again - how do we submit
> them?
>>
>> Please respond to
>> <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
>>submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> breaks
>>or
>>page numbers and no Copyright info included.
>>
>>Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work
> on?
>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Allison Hilliker" <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: 16 Lighthouse Road
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:41:41 -0700
>
> Thanks to Ann and her friend for letting us know about the bug.
>
> I checked the book and it reads fine in HTML, but not in Daisy. We've
> removed the book, and Claire is ordering it so it can be scanned
> in-house.
>
> Sorry to anyone who wanted to read the book right now, but we'll work on
> putting the new copy up soon.
>
> Best,
>
> Allison Hilliker:
> Intern, Benetech (Bookshare.org).
> E-mail allisonh@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.bookshare.org----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 2:53 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] 16 Lighthouse Road
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was reading the Booksfortheblind list and a bookshare member
> downloaded
>> the book in the subj line, by Debbie Macomber. She downloaded the
> DAISY
>> format. She said that all she got was page numbers. Has anyone read
>> this book recently or downloaded it at all? If it is indeed corrupt
> and
>> not a munged download, it should probably be removed or reencoded.
> The
>> BRF file's fine, I downloaded that.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Ann P.
>>
>> --
>> Ann K. Parsons
>> Portal Tutoring
>> EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> http://www.portaltutoring.info
>> "All that is gold does not glitter,
>> Not all those who wander are lost."
>>
>> Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "groups Warford" <groups_warford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables converting to text Jamie's great
> tip
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 18:32:20 -0500
>
> Hi Lissi,
> Thanks for pointing this out to all of us and for thinking of me. I
> will
> include it in my material. I hadn't seen Jamie's original post, but
> then I
> seem to be constantly behind these days.
>
> Thanks again, and take care!
> Cindy W (Cindy 4)
>
> Start with the necessary and the possible, and you'll soon find you're
> doing
> the impossible.
> -- St. Francis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Estelnalissi
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 5:08 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tables converting to text Jamie's great tip
>
> Dear Booksharian Friends
>
> I'd rather not know how many hours I've struggled to replace tables with
>
> text. Often the columns are off and get more unmatched as the table
> continues. Often JAWS and I have mixed results trying to read the table
> and
> editing it is nearly impossible, especially getting mismatched columns
> to
> line up properly.
>
> Recently Jamie sent the following instructions to the list. Her I did a
> find
>
> to locate her message and it saved me a huge amount of work on a book
> I'll
> be able to upload early this evening.
>
> Here is her short, very effective tip for converting tables to text in
> Microsoft word.
>
> To convert a table in word you just make sure your cursor is in the
> table,
> press Alt-A for the table menu, V for convert and B for table to text.
>
> This tip has made editing so fast and easy and the resulting
> information in
>
> text format conveyed the table information exactly. It is very hard for
> some
>
> people to visually skip the wide distance between columns in some tables
> and
>
> remain on the same line. In text, these columns can be separated by
> commas
> or dashes or whatever.
>
> When you press b, in the last step of Jamie's tip, you get a dialogue
> box
> where you can choose how you want to separate columns with tabs, etc.
> There
> is even a place to type in how you want to mark the gap between or start
> of
> information in the next column.
>
> I went to Jakes site to see if Jamie's tip, or one like it was there and
>
> didn't find it. I don't know if my link is as up to date as it should
> be,
> but her tip really belongs on the list of Jakes tips. Cindy W, you might
>
> also want to include this tip in the manual you are developing adding
> information about the dialogue box which pops up when you press the b.
>
> Thank you, Jamie!
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:10:57 -0500
> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
> I don't know about the 1260. If you're sure it's a 1260, I'd check the
> Epson web site and forget the disc.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:03 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
>
>> Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I got
> so
>> frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after clicking continue
> is
>> inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson perfection 1260 whether or
> not
>> its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven years, it was a
> freebie
>> from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax
>> scanner that once installed took so long the tech woman said youwon't
> ned
>> it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I ended up with a
> paper
>> weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson again.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>>
>>
>>>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded
> for a
>>>long time, at least the Perfection line.
>>>
>>> What model Epson?
>>> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them
> again.
>>> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out
> help,
>>> so
>>> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a
> brand
>>> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't
> take
>>> up
>>> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I
> have
>>> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine
> if
>>> i
>>> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i
>>> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped
> there
>>> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times
> to
>>> count
>>> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let
> me
>>> know.
>>> Thanks all.
>>> Siobhan
>>>
>>>
>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:27:05 -0500
> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
> To be clear, I cannot make sense of what I think I'm hearing. It sounds
> to
> me as if it's your computer that's having problems. You have two
> different
> scanners each of which has problems with the machine. I have no
> knowlege
> about Dells whatsoever. Nevertheless, I have just downloaded the driver
>
> files from the Epson site. They are in an executable file which
> self-extracts to a specific folder. After that, it either runs
> automatically or you have to go to the folder and run the setup program.
> If
> you want the file, I'd be happy to send it to you as an attachment.
> I'd call Paul just in case he has an idea and he comes on after 2:00
> P.M.,
> EST.
> Sincerest Good Wishes, and let me know if you want the file.
>
> Btw, Nick knows much more than I do, but, just in case, did you connect
> to
> the front or back of the computer, what operating system do you use?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:03 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
>
>> Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I got
> so
>> frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after clicking continue
> is
>> inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson perfection 1260 whether or
> not
>> its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven years, it was a
> freebie
>> from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax
>> scanner that once installed took so long the tech woman said youwon't
> ned
>> it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I ended up with a
> paper
>> weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson again.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>>
>>
>>>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded
> for a
>>>long time, at least the Perfection line.
>>>
>>> What model Epson?
>>> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them
> again.
>>> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out
> help,
>>> so
>>> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a
> brand
>>> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't
> take
>>> up
>>> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I
> have
>>> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine
> if
>>> i
>>> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i
>>> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped
> there
>>> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times
> to
>>> count
>>> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let
> me
>>> know.
>>> Thanks all.
>>> Siobhan
>>>
>>>
>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date:
>>> 1/6/2008
>>> 11:57 AM
>>>
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>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Maria Kristic" <maria6289@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Wish List and other books I have scanned and
> am worki
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:57:25 -0500
>
> Hi all,
> Below are five books which I have scanned, but I have yet to clean them
> up
> as much as I'd like to (including removing headers), so I won't put them
> up
> until I have. I go back to college next week, so I'm not sure exactly
> when
> I'll get them done, but I will, and I'm posting here because I don't
> want
> anyone to end up having duplicated scanning that's already been done.
> Four
> of them are off of the Wish List, and one is not. The one which isn't
> is:
>
> Songs of the Humpback Whale, by Jodi Picoult
>
> The four from the Wish List are:
>
> Unspoken, by Lisa Jackson
>
> A Twist of Fate, by Lisa Jackson
>
> Speak, by Laurie Halse Anderson
>
> Good Intentions, by Joy Fielding
>
> Thanks,
> Maria
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> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:39:16 -0500
> From: talmage@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>
> I think I know what she is referring to in respect to the 1260. I
> have one but don't currently use it because it is so frigging slow,
> but the autorun file that kicks in when you load the CD puts the user
> in a screen that allows you to install drivers, software,
> etc. Unfortunately, the screen is graphics based and doesn't talk or
> provide any usable output. The way around this is to use either the
> file from Epson's web site, which is actually a better choice as
> they're newer drivers anyway, or to load the CD, exit the setup
> screen, browse to the CD in Explorer, switch to the drivers folder,
> and run the executable found there. The setup programs in the sub
> folders talk fine, it's just the one that autoruns that stinks.
>
> Dave
>
> At 07:27 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote:
>>To be clear, I cannot make sense of what I think I'm hearing. It
>>sounds to me as if it's your computer that's having problems. You
>>have two different scanners each of which has problems with the
>>machine. I have no knowlege about Dells whatsoever. Nevertheless,
>>I have just downloaded the driver files from the Epson site. They
>>are in an executable file which self-extracts to a specific
>>folder. After that, it either runs automatically or you have to go
>>to the folder and run the setup program. If you want the file, I'd
>>be happy to send it to you as an attachment.
>>I'd call Paul just in case he has an idea and he comes on after 2:00
>>P.M., EST.
>>Sincerest Good Wishes, and let me know if you want the file.
>>
>>Btw, Nick knows much more than I do, but, just in case, did you
>>connect to the front or back of the computer, what operating system do
> you use?
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Siobhan"
> <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:03 AM
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>>
>>
>>>Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I
>>>got so frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after
>>>clicking continue is inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson
>>>perfection 1260 whether or not its a phone I don't kno. I've also
>>>had it seven years, it was a freebie from dell years back hen I gt
>>>this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax scanner that once installed
>>>took so long the tech woman said youwon't ned it, ook it,nd when I
>>>had a major reformat later, I ended up with a paper weight. so
>>>that's why I won't go for an eopson again.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Petraccaro"
> <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
>>>
>>>
>>>>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly
>>>>regarded for a long time, at least the Perfection line.
>>>>
>>>>What model Epson?
>>>>Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people?
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Siobhan"
> <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
>>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them
> again.
>>>>they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out
> help, so
>>>>unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a
> brand
>>>>hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't
> take up
>>>>room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I
> have
>>>>twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine
> if i
>>>>go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i
>>>>haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped
> there
>>>>and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times
> to count
>>>>last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let
> me know.
>>>>Thanks all.
>>>>Siobhan
>>>>
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> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:07:45 -0800 (PST)
> From: Anastasia Saridakis <anamatia81@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist Request
>
> Kelby
> I am scanning your book and it is very difficult. I am trying to scan it
> one page at a time b/c 2 at once wasn't working. It is taking a long
> time and I have to delete a column on each page. I can't open the book
> wide enough to do 2 pages at a time. DO you need this book or can
> someone else scan this for you? I've done 150 pages and it doesn't even
> look like I have put a dent in it as they say. what would you like me to
> do? Would someone else like this book? It is not my nature to quit on a
> book but this one is a pain. Do you really need this book and if so can
> someone else please try to take it? Thank you
> ANastasia
> kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear Booksharians,
>
> I am going to be doing a report/speech on fanaticism, extremism,
> and terrorism in the U.S. I need to do some research for this
> report, and was wondering if any of the following could be
> scanned:
>
> Nazis, Communists, Klansmen, and Others on the Fringe:
> Political Extremism in America by John George, and Laird Wilcox.
>
> The Farrakhan Phenomenon: Race, Reaction, and the Paranoid Style
> in American Politics by Robert Singh. Harvest of Rage: Why
> Oklahoma City Is Only the Beginning by Joel Dyer
>
> The Politics of Unreason: Right Wing Extremism in America,
> 1790-1970 by Seymour Martin Lipset, Earl Raab.
>
> Kelby
>
> Doomed Dragon
>
> Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?
>
> A: It is the universe exploding.
>
> "It is not what we see that determines who we are. It is how we
> choose to see it."
>
> "Let them praise the name of the LORD, for his name alone is
> exalted; his splendor is above the earth and the heavens."
>
> Psalm 148:13
>
> "Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your
> presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my
> bed in the depths, you are there. If I rise on the wings of the
> dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your
> hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast."
>
> Psalm 139:7-10
>
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> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:52:05 -0600
> From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Trouble on the Site
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am trying to upload a book to the admin queue. When I press browse
> and
> get the path, I get the error message: "The page you are looking for is
>
> unavailable. etc. Is anyone else having problems?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sue S.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:57:00 -0800 (PST)
> From: Anastasia Saridakis <anamatia81@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
>
> Thank you Liz and Shelly for your encouragement.
> I am hoping they will be uplifting books. Thanks for the support.
> Anastasia
> liz halperin <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Please scan it!
> Liz in PDX
>
> Liz Halperin
> Portland, OR
> lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anastasia
> Saridakis
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:46 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning?
>
> I did some research and I found 2 different books on the VA Tech
> tragedy. I
> am from MD and my brother graduated from Tech in 2005. One of the
> students
> who was killed had a father who taught at the school. My brother took
> his
> class. This subject is very close to my heart. My question is: is it too
> soon to put such a book on the site? Anyone on the list from the area
> too?
> Thank you.
>
> Anastasia
>
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> From: Ann Parsons <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: 16 Lighthouse Road
> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:58:35 -0500
>
> Hi all,
>
> Alison, you going to write to booksfortheblind, or shall I? No sense
> in writing twice. Please advise.
>
> Ann P.
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> From: "maithe007" <maithe007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Thank You
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 23:12:50 -0500
>
> Hi guys,
> I just wanted to say thank you for all of the support you have sent my
> way. It does help...a lot. I am still raw, but I know that with time I
> will get better. I miss my mom horribly and I keep picking-up the phone
> to speak to her. It kills me, but I will learn. She is being cremated
> tomorrow, we are having a wake for all of her neighborhood friends on
> Wednesday and a mass on Saturday. We will release her ashes by the
> ocean afterwards. I hope my mom is happy where she is now. I hope she
> knows that we all miss her and love her.
>
> Thank you all for being my friends. I will be off the loops for a bit
> until I get myself together. I am sorry if I have not answered your
> personal letters, but I just can't right now. I have received them and
> have kept them all to remind me of all the support I have had from my
> friends.
>
> Hugs,
>
> Maithe
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