[AR] Re: Fw: Hydrogen / oxygen news

  • From: Keith Henson <hkeithhenson@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 13:20:11 -0800

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:24 PM,  <johndom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Are nuclear subs producing their breathing oxygen electrolytically today?

Yes. It has been done this way since the first ones.

Keeping the atmosphere breathable is a tricky business.  Among other
things, they run the air through a burner to get out old socks smells
and other undesirable traces.

I don't have a reference, but there was one where the cork insulation
on the inside of the sub had been attached with a glue using CH3Cl as
a solvent. It out-gassed and produced HCl when it went through the
burners.  Of course subs are wet inside so there was dilute
hydrochloric acid everywhere.  The sub was very nearly junk by the
time it came in from the first curse.

PS.  looked around with the search string nuclear submarine methyl
hopcalitel hydrochloric acid

and found this

"Passage of methyl chloroform contaminated air through the submarine
CO/H 2 catalytic
burners results in the breakdown of the solvent to form vinylidene chloride and
hydrochloric acid. The latter compound, generated slowly but
continuously over a long
period of time, caused extensive corrosion damage aboard several
submarines in areas
surrounding the burner discharge before its identity and ultimate
source were discovered."



> Jd
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> Onderwerp: [AR] Re: Fw: Hydrogen / oxygen news
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Ed Kelleher
> <Pres@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Submarine oxygen generators ran at around 3000 psi.
>> They kept things separate.  O2 went to high pressure storage bank.
>> H2 ejected overboard through an auxiliary sea water system, IIRC.
>> A compact self contained package, roughly a cube 6 feet on a side.
>> They had an A ganger in constant attendance.
>
> And submariners called them "bombs" and regarded them with mistrust
> and deep suspicion.  While accidents were not common, they were not
> unheard of either.
>
> D.
>
>

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