The good news is that it is in fact RMAN that creates the backups (under the OEM scheduler), and RMAN is reliable in my experience. But why not meet the management half way by suggesting that you move from shell scripts to RMAN but do your own scheduling? Paul Baumgartel paul.baumgartel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 212.538.1143 -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Spears, Brian Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 4:13 PM To: Oracle Discussion List Subject: RMAN with OEM poll Hi, Look for opinions on running RMan from OEM. We have a great system using shell scripts with sqlnet to do all flavor flavors of unix and windows. We recovery is basically two key punch simple. Lots of checks in the system and so on. Now management says...lets redo it in OEM R2 because I can get nice reports from OEM. My first thought is that I don't like introducing another layer of dependency to the recovery strategy. Management says.. by going to OEM we will save ourselves from creating code to maintain? I haven't looked..but is this just marketing? Is OEM that good we can rest assured that we can recover 16 billion worth of database with just the black box solution? To me, it's like here we go again... management wants a brilliant solution with no effort put into it or to support it. My spidey "sense" is tingling. With your response...please indicate how and how long you have setup your rman solution and as well as what level of backup expertise experience you feel you are at. The reason for this is, depending on the response... I may summarize the responses and give my own marketing flash. Times may have changed in the last year or so and maybe the recommendation from the backup experts is to use the "Backup" /"Restore" ...God help us...if we get the dreaded "Java Error....push button on mass fax resumes" Brian _____ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ethan Post Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 12:39 PM To: Oracle Discussion List Subject: Re: Grep Help Thanks to all who replied, gmail was slow that day and I eventually stumbled across. grep "\$Log: .*[\$]" Which works with the "" although there is no reason I could not use "\". Thanks, Ethan On 4/12/06, Ethan Post < post.ethan@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:post.ethan@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > cat f $Log: Blah > grep "\$Log: .*\$" f $Log: Blah ============================================================================== Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.credit-suisse.com/legal/en/disclaimer_email_ib.html ==============================================================================