Er... what happens if one of the two people gets hit by a bus? Just curious. Patrice. -----Original Message----- From: Whittle Jerome Contr NCI [mailto:Jerome.Whittle@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: March 17, 2004 10:14 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Database security You'd have to hire guards to shoot anyone entering the No Lone Zone solo. Reminds me of my aircraft maintenance days in the military. Of course the stakes were MUCH higher then. Jerry Whittle ASIFICS DBA NCI Information Systems Inc. jerome.whittle@xxxxxxxxxxxx 618-622-4145 -----Original Message----- From: MacGregor, Ian A. [SMTP:ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] There is also the idea of two-man control. No one is allowed sole access to the machine room. No one knows the entire root/admin or dba password. I know of many places which implement two-man control for physical security, but none that have carried it to the computer security level. It would be so burdensome. Ian MacGregor Stanford Linear Accelerator Center ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >