"I am a person of an extremely liberal persuasion and anybody who knows me would find an idea of me spreading a Nazi propaganda completely and utterly ridiculous." Being extremely liberal obviously does not correlate with restraining oneself from making light of a cruel and despicable atrocity. I suppose it does correlate with one's view on Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction. I'm fairly conservative, and found the wardrobe malfunction very inappropriate. More importantly, I found your reference to the holocaust nothing short of painful to read. However, you were man enough to apologize, several times, and that resolves it as far as I am concerned. The more worrisome statements are from Mr. Wendelken, wherein he appears to "minimize" the holocaust as well as the light-hearted pun about it. Michael Milligan Salt Lake City, Utah -----Original Message----- From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:mgogala@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 9:00 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: treegarden@xxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Am I the only one who finds this offensive? OK, I apologized and I thought that should be the end of this, but now when you ask, I am of Jewish descent and I my grandfather lost a brother in WWII, which would, I imagine, be my relative had I ever known him. Being born in 1961, I was very fortunate indeed not to experience either WWII or the holocaust. When I used that phrase (a very stupid thing, indeed, I admit), I used it to signify strict and brutal discipline, not killing of any kind. I am a person of an extremely liberal persuasion and anybody who knows me would find an idea of me spreading a Nazi propaganda completely and utterly ridiculous. Once again, I apologize to anyone whom I might have offended and let me assure you that nobody could condemn Nazi atrocities more strongly then myself. I am coming from Europe and my sense of humor is formed accordingly. For instance, I found the "unrehearsed wardrobe malfunction" during the super-bowl game funny and not at all disconcerting or disturbing. I saw few equally serious crimes against fashion today on the train and yet nobody was paying any attention. So, please, let's leave this topic behind us. I didn't want to offend anybody, I do have a sense of humor that obviously needs some more work and I hope that would be the end of this unfortunate debate. Paul, what exactly is the point of this prolonged debate? If you want me to admit that I blurted out a very stupid thing indeed, I'll gladly accommodate you. This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------