[optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
- From: "DAVID PLUMLEE" <knobman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:02:54 -0500
I know about reading math with an Optacon. By contrast, I tried to read
some formulas concerning inductive and capacitive reactance on the internet,
but the screen reader didn't even see the formula. It was probably a
totally graphical representation of the equasions. The screen I had was not
very friendly to an Optacon - probably because of the colors or the refresh
rate of the video. I longed for a copy of the equasions in a book.
Fortunately in this case, I found a set of lectures on the Handi-Ham site
which covered the math verbally. That information put me in good stead to
get a grade of 94 on my Amateur Extra Radio License.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Korene Kegg" <kkegg57@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:37 PM
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
> Same here. I learned braille in the early sixties; Optacon in 1973. When
> I
> was at the school for the blind, I really didn't see the need for the
> Optacon. Then, oh, then, I went to a two-year college program, and
> couldn't
> find an up-to-date algebra book. You guessed it--I bought and red the
> print
> version. I think I get much more out of what I read with my hands.
> I usually read fiction audibly and nonfiction braille and Optacon.
>
> Korene
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "H & C Arnold" <4carolyna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:11 PM
> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
>
>
>> Same here for Mr. Coffee.
>>
>> In God We Trust,
>>
>> Carolyn
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marie Rudys" <mrudys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:09 PM
>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
>>
>>
>> Me, too; Braille first, way back in the early 1960's; Optacon in 1994. I
>> just bought a new fabric steamer so I can do my wrinkled clothes, and
>> unraveling the long sheet of instructions to find what I needed to know
>> was
>> a bit tricky, but I found it. I read in real time what I need to do with
>> my
>> new appliance.
>>
>> Marie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Natalie" <nataliej@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:53 PM
>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
>>
>>
>>> I'm the same way. I learned braille in the first grade and used it
>>> through
>>> college. I learn better through my hands and when the Optacon came
>>> along
>>> it
>>> made everything so much clearer to me than tapes and readers.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dianne B. Phelps" <d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:46 PM
>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
>>>
>>>
>>>>I agree with you on this. I must say that I was thrilled when I acquired
>>>>my
>>>> first Kurzweil Personal Reader for which I scrimped and saved and got a
>>>> bank
>>>> loan to have. But I remember vividly thinking that there were still
>>>> things
>>>> I
>>>> needed and wanted to see with my fingers and kind of wanted both
>>>> elements
>>>> within the same device. To this day, I find it more difficult to learn
>>>> to
>>>> do
>>>> something via just hearing it unless I slow it down and listen line by
>>>> line
>>>> to the steps I need to take. There was just something about that put
>>>> your
>>>> hands on it in real time that made total sense to me along with the
>>>> help
>>>> of
>>>> the OCR. The optacon is where I can really "SEE" it and where it really
>>>> gets
>>>> to my stunted brain.
>>>>
>>>> Dianne
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of John Huffman
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:51 AM
>>>> To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Catherine and All,
>>>>
>>>> It's fine to "think outside the box" in terms of developing a NEW
>>>> Optacon.
>>>> After all, technology has advanced much since 1970, and it may be
>>>> possible
>>>> to devise new ways to accomplish old tasks which would never occur to
>>>> us
>>>> non-wizards.
>>>>
>>>> But I feel very strongly that in doing this the Optacon's primary
>>>> purpose,
>>>> READING print in real time, should remain the primary goal of all such
>>>> redesign projects. That is a niche that critically needs to be kept
>>>> filled
>>>> by an Optacon or something very much like it.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, JH
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Catherine Thomas" <braille@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:40 AM
>>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just as with scanners, there are some excellent braille translation
>>>>> programs. If you need to read print documents and covert them to
>>>>> braille
>>>>> that is the method to use.
>>>>> The Optacon reads print as print--no re-interpretation. Because the
>>>>> Optacon reads print as print, we can read all sorts of non-standard
>>>>> things
>>>>> including lettering imposed on pictures. Lots of mail these days comes
>>>>> with logos. We may not know all the details of what the logo contains
>>>>> but
>>>>> we can often if we encounter the same thing a few times, recognize the
>>>>> shape. Again, reading print as print in real time is the Optacon's
>>>>> primary
>>>>> purpose.
>>>>> Catherine
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --
>>>>> -Catherine Thomas
>>>>> braille@xxxxxxxxx /
>>>>>
>>>>>
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