Same here. I learned braille in the early sixties; Optacon in 1973. When I was at the school for the blind, I really didn't see the need for the Optacon. Then, oh, then, I went to a two-year college program, and couldn't find an up-to-date algebra book. You guessed it--I bought and red the print version. I think I get much more out of what I read with my hands. I usually read fiction audibly and nonfiction braille and Optacon. Korene ----- Original Message ----- From: "H & C Arnold" <4carolyna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design > Same here for Mr. Coffee. > > In God We Trust, > > Carolyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marie Rudys" <mrudys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:09 PM > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design > > > Me, too; Braille first, way back in the early 1960's; Optacon in 1994. I > just bought a new fabric steamer so I can do my wrinkled clothes, and > unraveling the long sheet of instructions to find what I needed to know > was > a bit tricky, but I found it. I read in real time what I need to do with > my > new appliance. > > Marie > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Natalie" <nataliej@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:53 PM > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design > > >> I'm the same way. I learned braille in the first grade and used it >> through >> college. I learn better through my hands and when the Optacon came along >> it >> made everything so much clearer to me than tapes and readers. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dianne B. Phelps" <d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:46 PM >> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design >> >> >>>I agree with you on this. I must say that I was thrilled when I acquired >>>my >>> first Kurzweil Personal Reader for which I scrimped and saved and got a >>> bank >>> loan to have. But I remember vividly thinking that there were still >>> things >>> I >>> needed and wanted to see with my fingers and kind of wanted both >>> elements >>> within the same device. To this day, I find it more difficult to learn >>> to >>> do >>> something via just hearing it unless I slow it down and listen line by >>> line >>> to the steps I need to take. There was just something about that put >>> your >>> hands on it in real time that made total sense to me along with the help >>> of >>> the OCR. The optacon is where I can really "SEE" it and where it really >>> gets >>> to my stunted brain. >>> >>> Dianne >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>> On Behalf Of John Huffman >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:51 AM >>> To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design >>> >>> Hi, Catherine and All, >>> >>> It's fine to "think outside the box" in terms of developing a NEW >>> Optacon. >>> After all, technology has advanced much since 1970, and it may be >>> possible >>> to devise new ways to accomplish old tasks which would never occur to us >>> non-wizards. >>> >>> But I feel very strongly that in doing this the Optacon's primary >>> purpose, >>> READING print in real time, should remain the primary goal of all such >>> redesign projects. That is a niche that critically needs to be kept >>> filled >>> by an Optacon or something very much like it. >>> >>> Cheers, JH >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Catherine Thomas" <braille@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:40 AM >>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design >>> >>> >>>> Just as with scanners, there are some excellent braille translation >>>> programs. If you need to read print documents and covert them to >>>> braille >>>> that is the method to use. >>>> The Optacon reads print as print--no re-interpretation. Because the >>>> Optacon reads print as print, we can read all sorts of non-standard >>>> things >>>> including lettering imposed on pictures. Lots of mail these days comes >>>> with logos. We may not know all the details of what the logo contains >>>> but >>>> we can often if we encounter the same thing a few times, recognize the >>>> shape. Again, reading print as print in real time is the Optacon's >>>> primary >>>> purpose. >>>> Catherine >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>>> -Catherine Thomas >>>> braille@xxxxxxxxx / >>>> >>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --- >>>> to view the list archives, go to: >>>> >>>> www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: >>>> >>>> optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without >>>> the >>>> quotes) in the message subject. >>>> >>>> Tell your friends about the list. 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