Hi Kaye and everyone!
Once or twice a year, a new phone book is thrown on our stoop. I can't
remember when I have looked up a number in it, though I used to.
Debby
At 08:55 PM 7/29/2017, Kaye Kipp wrote
Back in 1986, I looked up a phone number for my Avon lady. I used to look
up phone numbers for myself too. I don't even have a phonebook now. Lol.
Kaye
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Me too. My parents couldn't read English, so looking up phone numbers was
one of the tasks I used the optacon for.
Mary L
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Goodness, I've looked up numbers in the phone book since 1974.
Best from,
Carolyn
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Hi Judy!
Thanks for your explanations below.
I thought of another thing to add to your list, no a few more things.
33. Reading guitar tablature.
34. Looking up numbers in a phone book.
35. Looking up a word in the dictionary.
Debby
At 02:42 PM 7/29/2017, Judy Jones wrote
See below.few items
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Hi Judy!
After readint more carefully, I have some questions about a
on the list and one suggestion.lines drawn
Does "graphical print" mean letters made up of a series of
close together in such a way that they form the largeletters that make
up a word that is maybe a main book title or title of amagazine
article, or does it mean that the letters in a title are solarge that
we need to trace them to read each letter? I have neverheard of this term.
had images on
Graphical print is an image of text. In my work, I have
the computer where I knew they represented text, but eitherhad to find
it on the computer screen, or print out the image, thenread it. Also,
if you had, for instance, a photo of two people with a signin the
background, you could possibly pick up the lettering byusing the
optacon, whereas it is highly doubtful OCR technology wouldpick it up clearly, if at all.
boxes, and on red
What are "HICF forms"? Number 12 says:
HICF forms are red forms medical offices use for billing
12. Ability to Read text on colored paper, in shaded
I never hadHICF forms that current scanning software cannot handle.
I have never been able to read the computer screen, because
the computer lens and the normal lens makes everything feelshaky.
It is hard
The shakiness is actually the pixels the optacon picks up.
to do, but possible.person to use a
I have not heard of the accessory that allows a blind
computer mouse. What is it called, and is it stillavailable?
from someone
I don't know about this either, but took the information
who had apparently had some experience.TSI that the
I was told years ago, maybe in the mid '80s, when I called
typewriter lens would only work with the IBM Selectric. Iused that
lens in optacon training on their IBM Selectrick, and sowished I could
have had that lens, but my typewriter is a manual that Ihaven't
touched in many years..background.
My suggestions:
31. Reading inverted text: light letters on a dark
does, but you
I believe OCR can do this to the extent it does what it
are right.about,
32. Reading hollow letters.
Shaded letters can be "hollow," I know what you are talking
though, and can correct that phrase to say shaded and/orhollow.
will be glad
Debby
At 12:31 PM 7/29/2017, Judy Jones wrote
Oh! If you have any additions you would like to see, I
list whento add them and repost.
Judy
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Hi Judy!
Thanks for pasting the optacon task list. I wasn't on the
it.it was posted before. This is the first time I have read
used, or
Debby
At 10:49 AM 7/29/2017, Judy Jones wrote
Thanks for letting me know. I am pasting it below.
Judy
USES OF THE OPTACON
The contributors to this list are from persons who have
regularare currently using the Optacon in daily life, and are
device, thatcontributors to the Optacon mailing list.
Developers on this list envision a next generation
enhance thewill, along with current OCR technology, further
to live thequality of life for blind persons, enabling the blind
tactile devicelife they want with greater independence. The new
ability tomay be smaller, less expensive, could possibly have the
the user tostore data downloaded from the computer, and also allow
would.read the actual computer screen, as a sighted person
fit into theApproximately three times the amount of tactuators may
raised imagedisplay, allowing the user to view a sharper, crisper
tasks performedcamera is scanning.of what the
For more information, go to
//www.freelists.org/archive/optacon-l/
For now, below is a list of some of the most common
OCRby the user of an Optacon, and are tasks that current
sharp contraststechnology has difficulty in performing.
1. Ability to read printed material with less than
current appsor intricate color schemes and shading difficult for
such as in aand cameras to decipher.
2. Ability to read print in non-standard layout,
DVD.curved line of a post-office date stamp or on a CD or
cans.
3. Ability to read cursive.
4. Ability to read round items such as bottles and
sheets with
5. Accurate reading of graphs, charts, tables, data
graphical print..coordinates, flow charts, and schematics.
6. Ability to read embedded text among images, or
creating
7. Ability to view font styles for the purpose of
proofing.attractive layouts that can also be checked for
small for an
8. Ability to read label and tags with print too
a cameraapp and camera, or otherwise positioned in spots where
price tags, orcannot reach, such as labels on power supplies and
for thestickers.other
9. As with braille, the ability to skim a print book
the rightproper page number, skim down a printed page to find
desired item.paragraph, or down a column of items to find the
on a page.
10. Ability to view document arrangement and placement
cartridges have not
11. Ability to quickly make sure ink and toner
boxes, and onrun out, by making sure documents are printing.
12. Ability to Read text on colored paper, in shaded
handle.red HICF forms that current scanning software cannot
reader has gone
13. Ability to read computer screens when screen
on a tvsilent, or is not available.
14. Ability to read many appliance displays, and text
screen.screen, and for the fun of it, detect movement on the
computer mouse.
15. An accessory can allow the blind person to use the
use a
16. An accessory is also available for those who still
forms.typewriter, in order to fill out printed hard-copy
checking mail,
17. Ability to read dials and gauges.
18. Faster than a camera for spot reading, such as
be markedsorting brochures, page numbers, etc.
19. Ability to locate signature or date line so it can
cannot handle.and filled out without sighted assistance.
20. Checking ink date stamps that an app and camera
newly-acquired device,
21. Ability to read buttons and dials on a
that deviceenabling the blind person to familiarize themselves to
markingwithout sighted assistance.
22. Ability to read controls on home appliances for
thewithout sighted assistance.
23. Ability to read musical scores for proofing, and
or sightedaccompanying words, without use of specialized software
assistance.where the
24. Ability to Read mathematical drawings and symbols,
expressions.layout has a particular meaning, such as in multi-line
such as
25. Ability to recognize logos and icons.
26. Ability to read some engraved text on textiles,
go silent.plastics and metals.
27. Ability to read a cell phone screen, should speech
in a picture.
28. The ability to recognize and distinguish features
as
29. Ability to read foreign language characters, such
we putJapanese, Chinese, or Cyrillic characters.
30. Ability to identify paper currency.
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No attachment came through.
I suspect the list doesn't allow attachments.
Could you paste it into the body of a message?
Thanks,
Richard
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