I saw clients using the Mowat sensor, and that was a neat device - compact, didn't interfere with ambient sounds, and appeared to do the job. I never trained anyone on sonic doodad canes or tried them myself. What amazing efforts to help with navigation. Judy Adams ----- Original Message --------------- Subject: [optacon-l] Mobility Aids [was: Re: TSI and the Good Old days! From: "Paula and James Muysenberg" <outofsightlife@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:10:11 -0600 To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Regards, >Paula > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:20 AM >Subject: [optacon-l] Re: TSI and the Good Old days! > > >> In 1970 at FSU I had an opportunity to Guinea Pig a Laser Cane, which the >> College of Education Department of Visual Disabilities under which after >> several changes of Major I would acquire my Bachelor's of Science, was >> evaluating for the V.A. because there was a possible 83 blind student >> population from which to find experimental volunteers... We had an area of >> the campus blocked of for several blocks, and one day after testing, I was >> allowed to remove the crook of the cane and it's laser and audio and >tacter >> assembly from the shaft. I had picture book technique at the time and ran >> as fast as I could until I was tired of running on the very edge of being >> out of control and going head over heals... Never before and never since >> have I had that amazing since of almost flying, and I was able to detect >and >> dodge obstacles faster than my Object Perception could. Finally, I used >the >> 6-meter horizontal beam to trace the branches of a tree. This and what >I've >> experienced of print, images, and other non tactile displays with the >> Optacon give me my own personal conceptions of what it must be like to >> see--experience beyond the range with Object Perception and not touch--and >> know things exist. The Sonic guide with it's ability to allow me to >> discriminate between the sounds of different adjacent surfaces to reach >for >> a door knob without any direct contact with the door or it's frame give me >> my own internal sense of what the power of vision must be like. This >> knowledge of the relation to form as beauty in addition to the access of >the >> functional contents of documents acquired through the use of the Optacon >> have greatly enriched my perceptions of what the nature of the world might >> be like for those not congenitally blind--not perhaps with full-fledged >> accuracy from their perspective, but giving me grist for the mills of >> amazement and occasional envy. (grin) >> >> Nick >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <gerald.g.weichbrodt@xxxxxx> >> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:43 AM >> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: TSI and the Good Old days! >> >> >> > Gee, I can remember doing some mobility work with the Sonic Guide in the >> > 1970's. I remember head angle being a touchy issue since you didn't >want >> > to miss stuff by elevating your head too much but you also didn't want >to >> > pick up topographical noise. I learned to navigate among poles set up >on >> > the ground and did some outdoor travel with the Sonic Guide as an >> > augmentation to what my cane would pick up. I can't say that I ever >> > became a power user of the Sonic Guide, however. I am glad I had the >> > experience of working with it. >> > Regards, >> > Jerry >> > >> > >> > >> > "Pentronics" <service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent by: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > 01/12/2009 10:48 PM >> > Please respond to >> > optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >> > >> > To >> > <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > cc >> > >> > Subject >> > [optacon-l] Re: TSI and the Good Old days! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Yes, the Kay torch was the precursor to the Sonic Guide and Mowat >Sensor. >> > I >> > still have some parts for the Sonic Guide, (I used to build the units >for >> > Australia), but nothing left for the Mowat. Sadly the Sonic Guide is >> > another >> > device gone without a replacement. Those were the days when Wormald did >> > mobility products, TSI did blindness products and Visualtek did low >vision >> > products. Ah, the world was a simpler place. >> > >> > Pentronics >> > 33B Sheppard Road >> > EMU PLAINS NSW 2750 >> > AUSTRALIA >> > PO Box 965 >> > PENRITH NSW 2751 >> > Tel. +612 4735 7355 >> > e-mail service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > web. www.pentronics.com.au >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> > On Behalf Of Nick Dotson >> > Sent: Tuesday, 13 January 2009 2:31 PM >> > To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: TSI and the Good Old days! >> > >> > Me too, if memory serves Wormald had the Kay Torch (spelling) and one of >> > my >> > favorite mobility aids the Sonic-Guide. Never got to do more than see >the >> > >> > former, but had the later during my internship and it gave me back the >> > lost >> > capabilities dependence on the cane took from my previously depended >upon >> > Object Perception/Facial Vision--and then some. I know it was Nurion >who >> > did the Laser cane, but I loved that too. Wish that those types of >> > devices >> > were still available... >> > >> > Nick >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Mary Emerson" <maryemerson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 4:47 PM >> > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: TSI and the Good Old days! >> > >> > >> >> Oh my, I remember Wormald! I have a Mowat sensor that still works, >> >> although >> >> these days I use an external charger which charges nickel metal hydride >> >> batteries, and a 9-volt NIMH battery works quite well. I think it's >> > still >> >> the best sensor of its kind, and it's essential for me since I have a >> >> hearing loss. It's saved my life more times than I can tell you. >> >> >> >> Back to the optacon: I found the Main Menu segment of December 18, 2002 >> > in >> >> which a brief description of the optacon was mentioned. Jonathan Mosen >> >> gives >> >> a nice summary of what it does, and I think I'll put it at the >beginning >> > >> >> of >> >> the broadcast. It sure is fun to dig this stuff out of the archives. >> >> >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> to view the list archives, go to: >> >> >> >> www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: >> >> >> >> optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without >the >> > >> >> quotes) in the message subject. >> >> >> >> Tell your friends about the list. 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