[optacon-l] Re: Investment
- From: "David Plumlee" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "knobman" for DMARC)
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- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:35:43 -0500
I think you guys really have something! You should get one of those patent
application kits.
You have to be discerning regarding those "patent application kits. In our
area of the country, we often hear so-called "Patent Application Kits" for
around $39.95. From what I have heard on some of this stuff, those $39.95
kits give you little more than what you could research by yourself with
perhaps a couple of hours on the Internet. I guess you get what you pay for
in many cases at least. It is probably best to do a bit of research to find
a good patent attorney to, at the very least, give direction or a bit of
guidance to help do it right.
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From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 1:04 PM
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Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Investment
I think you guys really have something! You should get one of those patent
application kits.
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On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 12:10 PM
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Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Investment
Oh, how true that is. My husband and I have more good ideas we talk about
that "they," could do.
His best one right now is window blinds that have that reversible glass,
where you can see clearly out of one side of each slat, but the other would
give shade.
One of mine is a switch or button on a cabinet - push, it drops down, where
us shorties can reach the top shelf; push again, it goes back up and into
place. I've had that one for years. Of course, you'd have to keep that in
mind, when placing things on the counter below.
Guess this is the wrong place for this - should be writing to Architecture
Digest - hahahahahaha.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 1:41 PM
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That is too bad. Ideas are "a dime a dozen," it's the logistics of getting
them to come to fruition that separates the men from the boys.
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<optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of dan.tevelde@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 9:43 AM
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I think the videotim is dead. I've spoken to the developer once and
e-mailed him once in a while and he says he is working on a new version but
didn't indicate whether he could sell it. He said that it was hard to
create an interest in it in Germany. That's sad because in Germany blind
people usually get whatever Braille display they want.
Assistive technology is considered part of the German health care system and
a necessity not a luxury.
Dan
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<optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of sonshines59@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:29 AM
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Hi,
I haven't heard any more on the Video TIM developed by Germany either, and I
think they were running close to a ten thou price tag.
What person or agency is going to spend that kind of money on a reading
machine, no matter how great it is? Just my thoughts is all.
Judy
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<optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of dan.tevelde@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:56 AM
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Subject: [optacon-l] Investment
Hi Charles,
Yesterday when you were reporting your progress in developing a new optacon
you quoted a $10,000 figure. Is that amount the total cost of developing a
new optacon, or the cost of each individual unit which would need to be sold
to break even or make a small profit? the total amount seems modest
compared to other projects for other technologies like Braille displays.
I see an interesting parallel between the possibility of developing a new
optacon and the recent development of new Braille displays. New Braille
displays often come to the market because the assistive technology companies
can't get parts for existing products. An example is the Humanware
Brailliant. They said they are introducing a new model at the end of the
year. Another reason new Braille displays come to the market is that enough
users request a new design and the developers implement it. Cases include
the Hims QBraille which has a Braille keyboard and windows modifier keys.
Humanware has a new Braille display sold by APH which has a qwerty keyboard.
Then there is the impetus for developing Braille displays using new and
cheaper technology. Despite all the hiccups in the development of the orbit
Reader, Orbit Research has succeeded in bringing a new technology to the
market and developing products which have staying power.
I don't know if this could be done with the optacon but it is always
possible. The first step is promoting the use cases and that is difficult
as there needs to be more awareness about the optacon than what we have in
our group of people who subscribe to this mailing list. This would be
difficult as no major blindness organization or assistive technology company
has expressed an interest in developing a new optacon. It might be possible
to bypass established organizations and use social media to promote the
optacon.
There are already videos on YouTube demonstrating the optacon.
The videos are copies of old presentations from the time the optacon was
new. I don't know if they are visually attractive though. Then we need
start-up capital to create prototypes which would also be difficult. Then
we need a reliable supply chain. This would have to be done carefully. In
the beginning of the development of the Orbit Reader, Orbit Research made
promises it couldn't deliver.
the Orbit Reader was not widely available and people ended up buying it on
eBay or from notices on blindness mailing lists. Now Orbit Research has
straightened out this issue which is lucky for them. They didn't alienate
enough people to remove the product form the market.
I think the awareness of the need for graphics displays is growing due to
changing computer technology and the need to provide graphics to students
who are learning remotely.
It's not practical to send students embossed graphics as they would never
keep up with their assignments. this is a unique situation. It would be
necessary to persuade enough people that the optacon could fill a need and
should be an option for people who need graphical information in real time.
APH submitted a request for proposal looking for partners to develop a
graphics display. that will take a while.
Among other things the only currently available graphics display is the
Graphiti which is financially out of reach for individuals.
Dan
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