Who is the list owner?
Judy
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From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of David Plumlee (Redacted sender "knobman" for DMARC)
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 9:53 AM
To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Fake Messages
Hi, Petra,
I hope the list owner takes that nasty message down; you are right that
there is no reason at all for such language on this list! As I understand
the guidelines for this list, that message is a blatant violation of those
guidelines!
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From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of petra
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 7:02 PM
To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Fake Messages
Good evening Charles?
Excuse people for thinking you had passed on. You were the one always
telling us how ill you were and then no posts from you for quite a while.
I'm glad you are alive, if it's really you, and hope you fully recover from
whatever is plaguing you.
I think the language in your message is appalling. No reason for that.
Petra
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From: CHARLES POND <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender wpg67 for
DMARC)
To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, July 25, 2020 2:42 pm
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Fake Messages
straight.
List: This is Charles Pond in Ottawa. David Plumlee, Catherine Thomas
and the several others of like-mind: What the "Fake" is wrong with you
people? You are so full of brown-stuff and this is now so far gone
that you can't even be reasoned with at this point, let alone see
I'll address this ridiculous gossipy virtually slandrous crap about meexcept for one proverbial "fly in the ointment": The ubiquitous practice of
being deceased and a fake and scamming in a few days, but for now: for
"fake sake", this is Charles Pond very much alive in Ottawa. I am nod
dead! What the f*** is wrong with you people!? Do you want me to send
my rent receipt for July and my bank statements to prove this? Who
started this way-out Bull-S and perpetuates it? They should be exposed
and publicly humiliated and help accountable in most blatant terms! I
have been regularly and consistently on other lists and there are
people on the "optacon losers' (excuse me, users') list" who readily
know this and with whom I interact often en. What is seriously wrong
with you people?!
enough of this bull-shit from you - Catherine, David and a few others!
Charles Pond
On 2020-07-25 1:10 pddm., David Plumlee (Redacted sender knobman for
DMARC) wrote:
Hi, Pamela,
Notifying BBB or the local police would be an extremely great idea
the F-word when I wouldn't tell him my age, I googled his number and foundOne day when I received a call from a guy who became very nasty and
used
spoofing so that a caller would have to either have his number shown onI wish that phone companies would take action to eliminate all
number
other agency, but that's the way I see the situation these days. We simply
Yes, I know I am pessimistic about reporting to BBB, the police,
FTC, or
moment to notify your local Better Business Bureau and even the police if
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From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Pamela Drake
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 2:31 PM
To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Fake Messages
David and all,
I would also suggest that anyone receiving such phone calls take a
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 25, 2020, at 10:34 AM, David Plumlee
come twice to our house on two different phone calls. On one call, a fellow
"I also want to warn all listers about a telephone-based scam which
has
"hook" somewhere by which the scammer would get money from us whileWhen I discussed the call with Debbie, she agreed that there has to
be a
grant of $15,000. Having already discussed this kind of scam with Debbie, IA few days ago, I received a call from a woman supposedly offering
me a
any of us to think, if we got such a call, that we could apply for a grantI take time on this list to tell of these scams because I wouldn't
want
but not to a foundation or the like, and not much money for R&D.
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From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 9:19 AM
To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Fake Messages
That was why in my post, I said that $10,000 was a lot to an
individual,
a new Optacon 3 product anytime soon, and I encourage you to be extremely
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From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Noel Runyan
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 6:31 PM
To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Fake Messages
Catherine and listers,
I will start by echoing a strong warning about getting your hopes up
for
development.With that said, I hasten to point out that Charles Pond's recent
messages to this list were not asking for money, although he did
state that he needed
$10,000 to $13,000 in order to finish his new Optacon display
near the many hundreds of thousands of dollars needed to develop the rest ofClearly, that relatively small sum of funding would not come
anywhere
assumptions or suspicions about the poor health or death of individuals.I also encourage us all to be extremely careful when making and
sharing
truly deceased, or do we only have unsupported assumptions and irresponsibleDoes anyone on this list have any actual proof that Charles Pond is
being his brother and writing for Charles.In two of his recent posts to this Optacon list, Charles Pond
mentioned
expect from someone who has been falsely proclaimed to be deceased.These appeared to me to be the kind of ill advised humor one might
Charles, and they both were very consistent with his former writing styleIn the last several months, I have had two direct Email exchanges
with
technical reference in Optacon discussions with me.I am sure that a poser would not have known to use such a unique
heard from in the past, is still alive and has recovered enough from hisCertainly, I am comfortably convinced that Charles Pond, the one
we've
observation of and confirmation of any working prototypes of Charles'sHowever, I am also convinced that we have not had independent
Charles Pond will need to be more open and willing to share details of hisTo be taken seriously by researchers in the tactile display field,
quotes) in the message subject.Sincerely,
Noel
-
Noel H. Runyan
Phone: 1-408-866-7564
Email: Noel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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At 11:35 PM 7/23/2020, Catherine Thomas wrote:
I think someone is having a joke at the list's expense. Idoubt vey
seriously that the messages are authentically from Charles.The english
is wrong, the writing style does not match and the tone iswrong. If
anyone receives any private requests for funds claiming tobe from
Charles, just delete them. This is only my opinion based onyears of reading Charles'
messages.----------
Catherine
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