I am not going to pass judgment, but looking at the header of the message,
the newer ones from Charles are not from the two previous addresses I had
for him; this one is from a completely different ISP.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "CHARLES POND (Redacted sender "wpg67" for DMARC)"
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 9:41 PM
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Fake Messages
List: This is Charles Pond in Ottawa. David Plumlee, Catherine Thomas
and the several others of like-mind: What the "Fake" is wrong with you
people? You are so full of brown-stuff and this is now so far gone that
you can't even be reasoned with at this point, let alone see straight.
I'll address this ridiculous gossipy virtually slandrous crap about me
being deceased and a fake and scamming in a few days, but for now: for
"fake sake", this is Charles Pond very much alive in Ottawa. I am nod
dead! What the f*** is wrong with you people!? Do you want me to send
my rent receipt for July and my bank statements to prove this? Who
started this way-out Bull-S and perpetuates it? They should be exposed
and publicly humiliated and help accountable in most blatant terms! I
have been regularly and consistently on other lists and there are people
on the "optacon losers' (excuse me, users') list" who readily know this
and with whom I interact often enough. What is seriously wrong with
you people?!
enough of this bull-shit from you -- Catherine, David and a few others!
Charles Pond
On 2020-07-25 1:10 p.m., David Plumlee (Redacted sender knobman for
DMARC) wrote:
Hi, Pamela,to view the list archives, go to:
Notifying BBB or the local police would be an extremely great idea except
for one proverbial "fly in the ointment": The ubiquitous practice of
that damnable number spoofing. For one thing, I believe that number
spoofing makes the "DO NOT CALL" lists virtually WORTHLESS because there
is no way to capture the REAL PHONE NUMBER of these callers.
Occasionally, you might get a true phone number for the caller; but when
I have Googled several of these suspicious callers, I have found that a
whole branch of an exchange (i.ei, (701) 238-****, covering 9,999
possible numbers) is listed as scam, suspicious, or the like.
One day when I received a call from a guy who became very nasty and used
the F-word when I wouldn't tell him my age, I googled his number and
found it to belong to a woman in a small town not far from our home.
That call was to me a "wake-up call" against calling any number found for
one of these calls since I could very easily be blaming an innocent
person for calling me. As another "wake-up reminder" we had a call one
day while Debbie was on the phone with a friend, and our Caller ID said
the call was from our own number. That call was obviously from a spoofed
number, since you wouldn't call your own number. Debbie and our friend
both laughed at that Caller ID report.
I wish that phone companies would take action to eliminate all number
spoofing so that a caller would have to either have his number shown on
Caller ID or else come in as a "number unknown" so that a person could
easily choose to ignore all "number unknown" calls if desired. I am
already moving more firmly in the direction of ignoring all calls that
report "toll-free call" or "out of area" calls. Such calls are almost
always junk ads or scams. How often have you answered a call and heard
something like "This is your final call...." THEY ARE LIARS - ALL OF
THEM! Since they can't tell the truth on that statement (they keep
calling), those callers can't be trusted for anything!!!
Yes, I know I am pessimistic about reporting to BBB, the police, FTC, or
other agency, but that's the way I see the situation these days. We
simply have NO IDEA who is placing most of these calls. Sadly, I have
heard on our local news about persons in our area being scammed out of
much of their savings by these thieves. It's sad indeed that at least
one of them somehow found our Optacon list; but we can render them
ineffective by refusing to click on any of their messages or send them
any money or personal information.
-----Original Message-----
From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Pamela Drake
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 2:31 PM
To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Fake Messages
David and all,
I would also suggest that anyone receiving such phone calls take a moment
to notify your local Better Business Bureau and even the police if you
believe it would be helpful. Yes indeed, scams are out there everywhere!
The BBB has a page on their site <bbb.org> which they call scam Trackers.
You can report and find a lot of scamms, nationally and locally.
On Jul 25, 2020, at 10:34 AM, David Plumlee <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I also want to warn all listers about a telephone-based scam which has
come twice to our house on two different phone calls. On one call, a
fellow said that he was offering me a grant of $80,000 which I could use
for anything I want, tax free, coming from something he called a
reinvestment and recovery act. I knew that nobody, especially the U.S.
Government, is out there to give me EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS with no
strings attached! I recorded the information he gave me on how to apply
for the grant.
When I discussed the call with Debbie, she agreed that there has to be a
"hook" somewhere by which the scammer would get money from us while
providing us nothing; or maybe the scam was to get us involved with some
crooks stealing government money. We stayed out of it!
A few days ago, I received a call from a woman supposedly offering me a
grant of $15,000. Having already discussed this kind of scam with
Debbie, I told the woman on the phone that nobody is out there to give us
that amount of money and that we are not interested. I then immediately
hung up the phone. More than likely, the phone numbers from both of the
callers were spoofed and therefore untraceable. The calls probably came
from someone overseas. I haven't yet figured out how the scamming group
was going to get money while they were giving money to me with no
requirement that I pay any kind of fee to get it; but I'm sure there is a
"hook" somewhere in those deals, and our best approach was to leave both
of them alone!
I take time on this list to tell of these scams because I wouldn't want
any of us to think, if we got such a call, that we could apply for a
grant in order to provide funds for research and development of a new
Optacon. Most of us are in no position to get scammed out of our own
limited funds, and it is sad indeed that scammers have apparently
discovered this list and sent some fake messages, perhaps "feelers" to
see if anyone will offer to advance some money "down the rat hole." I
also share the opinion that we cannot expect a new Optacon anytime soon -
and maybe not at all. If I understand "the way the wind blows" these
days, education of young blind children has moved so far into recordings
and computerized speech that nobody will seriously look at the device
which has been so helpful to us.
-----Original Message-----
From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 9:19 AM
To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Fake Messages
That was why in my post, I said that $10,000 was a lot to an individual,
but not to a foundation or the like, and not much money for R&D.
-----Original Message-----
From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Noel Runyan
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 6:31 PM
To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Fake Messages
Catherine and listers,
I will start by echoing a strong warning about getting your hopes up for
a new Optacon 3 product anytime soon, and I encourage you to be extremely
suspicious about anyone asking for money to fund new Optacon research.
With that said, I hasten to point out that Charles Pond's recent messages
to this list were not asking for money, although he did state that he
needed
$10,000 to $13,000 in order to finish his new Optacon display
development.
Clearly, that relatively small sum of funding would not come anywhere
near the many hundreds of thousands of dollars needed to develop the rest
of an Optacon 3 device, assuming the tactile display development portion
was successful and working well.
I also encourage us all to be extremely careful when making and sharing
assumptions or suspicions about the poor health or death of individuals.
Does anyone on this list have any actual proof that Charles Pond is truly
deceased, or do we only have unsupported assumptions and irresponsible
gossip?
In two of his recent posts to this Optacon list, Charles Pond mentioned
being his brother and writing for Charles.
These appeared to me to be the kind of ill advised humor one might expect
from someone who has been falsely proclaimed to be deceased.
In the last several months, I have had two direct Email exchanges with
Charles, and they both were very consistent with his former writing style
and technical issues. He mentioned Halbach magnetic arrays, a technical
term for a special kind of magnet I told him about several years ago.
I am sure that a poser would not have known to use such a unique
technical reference in Optacon discussions with me.
Certainly, I am comfortably convinced that Charles Pond, the one we've
heard from in the past, is still alive and has recovered enough from his
severe health problems to be able to continue some discussions about
Optacon tactile displays.
However, I am also convinced that we have not had independent observation
of and confirmation of any working prototypes of Charles's Optacon 3
tactile array devices, something that causes most experts in the field to
have serious doubts about its performance and viability.
To be taken seriously by researchers in the tactile display field,
Charles Pond will need to be more open and willing to share details of
his design concepts and any prototypes.
Sincerely,
Noel
-
Noel H. Runyan
Phone: 1-408-866-7564
Email: Noel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-
At 11:35 PM 7/23/2020, Catherine Thomas wrote:
I think someone is having a joke at the list's expense. Idoubt vey
seriously that the messages are authentically from Charles.The english
is wrong, the writing style does not match and the tone iswrong. If
anyone receives any private requests for funds claiming tobe from
Charles, just delete them. This is only my opinion based onyears of reading Charles'
messages.----------
Catherine
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-Catherine Thomas
braille@xxxxxxxxx /
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