I learned to read the printing of family members and could often recognize my name in handwritten form, though I couldn't read too much more in cursive writing. I also, during training and a few times afterward, tried reading print music which was just too tedius to accomplish very much. I could recognize the notation with it, time signatures and key signatures. Dianne -----Original Message----- From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 1:45 PM To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [optacon-l] Re: A question Amen. Plus, I was thrilled I could read handwritten texts and get to know those various handwritings of family members and friends, not to mention my sighted students whose homework I needed to check. Of course, I also got help from amanuenses and later I had my students do their work on their computers and send me their essays by e-mail. But, it always helped knowing the layout and formatting of texts on a real sheet of paper. I can't imagine doing without an Optacon, and whenever it is down, I feel like being tossed back into an age zillions (of) years ago. I also found it quite fascinating exploring some simple Chinese and japanese characters, but more complex ones would require a better lens for magnification. Best, Cordelia --------------------------------------------- From: "Dianne B. Phelps" <d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 9:10 PM To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: A question > That is interesting because that is the project I heard about six or seven > years ago. At the time I first heard about his work, he was going to have > it > do both-That is speak and show us the tactile image. For my needs > personally, for OCR and reading, I will go to Dr. Kurzweil. He was the > father of all of that stuff, and his stuff has worked extremely well for > me. > Now, if we could reinterest people like Dr. Bliss and other scientists in > regrouping on the optacon technology, we might could have the best of both > worlds. All I know is that I don't know what I would have done without the > optacon. OCR is just terrific, but it doesn't replace being able to have > contact with the page you produced and its formatting. It tries, but > doesn't > quite make it. > > Dianne > > -----Original Message----- > From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Anne Robertson > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 2:36 AM > To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: A question > > Hello Cordelia, > > I think the project you are referring to would be the P2RD developed by > Oleg > Tretiakov. He touted it as a replacement for the Optacon, but it was > nothing > of the sort. It was a similar idea to the KNFB Reader, in that it used a > camera to take pictures of text which were then interpreted using Abbyy > FineReader. The whole thing ran on a PC Notebook computer. > > I had many a long argument with Mr Tretiakov after buying his device and > being seriously disappointed with it. He simply refused to understand that > his device was just another scan and OCR solution and no replacement > whatsoever for the Optacon. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On Aug 1, 2010, at 6:25 AM, Cordelia Scharpf wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> I have been following the discussion about different models of the > Optacons and the arrays with 100 >> vs. 144 pins for a while. My question is whethere there was not someone >> in > Florida trying to design >> a new Optacon? I came across him and his project about two or three years > ago, and his project was >> funded by National Institute of science, if I remember correctly. Do you > know anything more about >> this? >> >> Best regards, >> Cordelia >> >> to view the list archives, go to: >> >> www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l >> >> To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: >> >> optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the > quotes) in the message subject. >> >> Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a >> message > to: >> >> optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the message subject. >> > > to view the list archives, go to: > > www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l > > To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: > > optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the > quotes) in the message subject. > > Tell your friends about the list. 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