Paul, have a look at Elgato (or eyetv hybrid). I use it to take video clips and very good sound off my TV. I bought it about three years ago and I found the price was not of the give-away kind. I have since seen ads of gizmos like the Elgato tool but at a much better priced. The Future Shop or Best Buy certainly will have such things. Karl --- MUGLO information at <http://www.freewebs.com/muglo> Manage your account options at <//www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi>