[muglo] Re: Further to MUGLO re WatRMUG demise

  • From: Frank <fbirch@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 11:49:03 -0700

The ones who complain the most are usually the ones who do not contribute and 
do not attend.

My 2 cents

Keep up your enthusiasm 

Cheers frank

🚶

> On Apr 28, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Larry Kryski <larry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
> 
> Further to WatRMUG (Waterloo Region Macintosh User Group): 
> 
> WatRMUG essentially failed because of an internal squabble and not because 
> of the internet. About a year ago, the club was healthy and expanding 
> nicely. But a year earlier, attendance at meetings had been dropping and the 
> executive was seeking ways to reverse this. A number of ideas were being 
> discussed, but none seemed to be the “right” option that would draw people 
> out on a regular basis. I thought a bold initiative was required and 
> suggested that if the club could afford it, it should have a draw for an 
> iPad. After much discussion, the executive agreed and worked out the 
> details. Since the idea was to build up club participation, free tickets 
> were offered to each member that attended a meeting. Those that wanted to, 
> could also purchase tickets at a pre-determined rate. The draw was to be 
> held at the final meeting of the year, with the stipulation that you had to 
> be at the draw meeting to win. The concept was presented to the membership 
> and was enthusiastically received. Attendance numbers started to increase as 
> did membership. By the end of the year, it was becoming a challenge to find 
> an empty seat at a meeting. Apparently the final meeting of that year had 
> the largest attendance according to the president at the time.
> 
> The plan appeared to be a phenomenal success, so  the following fall, the 
> executive opted to proceed with the same plan again. This is where things 
> began to go off the rails. Although the plan had been approved by the 
> membership the previous year, some new members argued that it wasn’t fair 
> that you couldn’t win if you weren’t in attendance at the draw meeting. One 
> person had missed the draw because of work and had expressed upset that they 
> couldn’t win (their ticket was never drawn). The iPad had been won on the 
> first ticket selected by a member in attendance. The risk of not winning due 
> to absence was a risk all of us had accepted as part of the incentive to 
> increase club membership.
> 
> The “NOT FAIR” issue continued to plague the executive at additional 
> meetings, and had a less than friendly tone. If you have ever volunteered 
> with a computer club (or any club for that matter), you will understand how 
> much time it takes to organize a single meeting, and a club with two 
> meetings a month takes even more time. The key executive members felt 
> insulted and unappreciated as a result. At a short auxiliary meeting, these 
> executives decided as a group to withdraw from the club. Together we carry 
> 80-100 years of Mac experience between us as well as a history of personal 
> contribution toward supporting the local Mac community.
> 
> However, although WatRMUG is ending, we continue to meet monthly for dinner 
> under the moniker “Mac Talk” or my preference, “Talk Mac”. We are not 
> meeting as a club but as a group of Mac aficionados who enjoy each other’s 
> companionship and respect.
> 
> Unfortunately, self became more important than the club and ultimately led 
> to its demise. It’s too bad, because WatRMUG had been an extremely fine club 
> with very strong technical support and personal dedication.
> 
> Larry Kryski
> Past President with MUGLO
> Executive at Large with WatRMUG
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Barry Takayesu <barryt99@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: MUGL <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 16:34:50 -0400
> To: MUGLO <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: I'm still here
> 
> I guess I should report in also.
> 
> Unfortunately, Watrmug (Waterloo MUG) has gone the way of MugLo and has 
> announced their closing. 
> They had an ambitious schedule with 2 meetings per month...great 
> presentations and sharing of information. But alas, the internet provides so 
> much of that information. Informative, impersonal.
> 
> I worry about the generation that communicates with each other through text 
> and tweets  Perhaps their voice box will atrophy and they will grow more 
> thumbs...but will they still be opposable?
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Eurogarth <eurogarth@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Me too!
> 
> On 2014-04-26, at 10:37, pwdobson@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> > I also have a bunch of surplus units and a wife obsessed with decluttering. 
> > Where  are the buyers coming from?
> >
> > Sent from myMail for iOS
> >
> >
> >
> > Saturday, April 26, 2014, 10:30 AM -0400 from Douglas Feick 
> > <dejl6@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > I’m still here. The meeting night is in conflict with another night.
> > I was having a discussion with my wife about the at least 6 old computers I 
> > have in various rooms in the house. Apparently she wants the space for 
> > something more important. Ha!. Anyway, by way of compromise she has 
> > suggested I get rid of them before summer. My idea was to have an old 
> > computer sale, exchange, or giveaway at the library meeting place for our 
> > June meeting. Anyone else have a similar problem or is it just me? Any 
> > other input?
> >
> > On Apr 26, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Doug Bale < dougbale@xxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
> >
> > > Aye, laddie.
> > > “Here’ tae us!
> > > “Wha’s like us?
> > > “Damned few — an’ they’re a’ deid!”
> > > Nae a’ o’ thaim, mibble, but thir’s nae gey mony o’ us aboun the sod.
> > >
> > >> On Apr 26, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Wayne Dobson rote:
> > >>
> > >> Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that most Mugloites have faded 
> > >> away into oblivion?
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