The ones who complain the most are usually the ones who do not contribute and do not attend. My 2 cents Keep up your enthusiasm Cheers frank 🚶 > On Apr 28, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Larry Kryski <larry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > Further to WatRMUG (Waterloo Region Macintosh User Group): > > WatRMUG essentially failed because of an internal squabble and not because > of the internet. About a year ago, the club was healthy and expanding > nicely. But a year earlier, attendance at meetings had been dropping and the > executive was seeking ways to reverse this. A number of ideas were being > discussed, but none seemed to be the “right” option that would draw people > out on a regular basis. I thought a bold initiative was required and > suggested that if the club could afford it, it should have a draw for an > iPad. After much discussion, the executive agreed and worked out the > details. Since the idea was to build up club participation, free tickets > were offered to each member that attended a meeting. Those that wanted to, > could also purchase tickets at a pre-determined rate. The draw was to be > held at the final meeting of the year, with the stipulation that you had to > be at the draw meeting to win. The concept was presented to the membership > and was enthusiastically received. Attendance numbers started to increase as > did membership. By the end of the year, it was becoming a challenge to find > an empty seat at a meeting. Apparently the final meeting of that year had > the largest attendance according to the president at the time. > > The plan appeared to be a phenomenal success, so the following fall, the > executive opted to proceed with the same plan again. This is where things > began to go off the rails. Although the plan had been approved by the > membership the previous year, some new members argued that it wasn’t fair > that you couldn’t win if you weren’t in attendance at the draw meeting. One > person had missed the draw because of work and had expressed upset that they > couldn’t win (their ticket was never drawn). The iPad had been won on the > first ticket selected by a member in attendance. The risk of not winning due > to absence was a risk all of us had accepted as part of the incentive to > increase club membership. > > The “NOT FAIR” issue continued to plague the executive at additional > meetings, and had a less than friendly tone. If you have ever volunteered > with a computer club (or any club for that matter), you will understand how > much time it takes to organize a single meeting, and a club with two > meetings a month takes even more time. The key executive members felt > insulted and unappreciated as a result. At a short auxiliary meeting, these > executives decided as a group to withdraw from the club. Together we carry > 80-100 years of Mac experience between us as well as a history of personal > contribution toward supporting the local Mac community. > > However, although WatRMUG is ending, we continue to meet monthly for dinner > under the moniker “Mac Talk” or my preference, “Talk Mac”. We are not > meeting as a club but as a group of Mac aficionados who enjoy each other’s > companionship and respect. > > Unfortunately, self became more important than the club and ultimately led > to its demise. It’s too bad, because WatRMUG had been an extremely fine club > with very strong technical support and personal dedication. > > Larry Kryski > Past President with MUGLO > Executive at Large with WatRMUG > > > > > > From: Barry Takayesu <barryt99@xxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: MUGL <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 16:34:50 -0400 > To: MUGLO <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: I'm still here > > I guess I should report in also. > > Unfortunately, Watrmug (Waterloo MUG) has gone the way of MugLo and has > announced their closing. > They had an ambitious schedule with 2 meetings per month...great > presentations and sharing of information. But alas, the internet provides so > much of that information. Informative, impersonal. > > I worry about the generation that communicates with each other through text > and tweets Perhaps their voice box will atrophy and they will grow more > thumbs...but will they still be opposable? > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Eurogarth <eurogarth@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Me too! > > On 2014-04-26, at 10:37, pwdobson@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > I also have a bunch of surplus units and a wife obsessed with decluttering. > > Where are the buyers coming from? > > > > Sent from myMail for iOS > > > > > > > > Saturday, April 26, 2014, 10:30 AM -0400 from Douglas Feick > > <dejl6@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > I’m still here. The meeting night is in conflict with another night. > > I was having a discussion with my wife about the at least 6 old computers I > > have in various rooms in the house. Apparently she wants the space for > > something more important. Ha!. Anyway, by way of compromise she has > > suggested I get rid of them before summer. My idea was to have an old > > computer sale, exchange, or giveaway at the library meeting place for our > > June meeting. Anyone else have a similar problem or is it just me? Any > > other input? > > > > On Apr 26, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Doug Bale < dougbale@xxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > > > > Aye, laddie. > > > “Here’ tae us! > > > “Wha’s like us? > > > “Damned few — an’ they’re a’ deid!” > > > Nae a’ o’ thaim, mibble, but thir’s nae gey mony o’ us aboun the sod. > > > > > >> On Apr 26, 2014, at 6:32 AM, Wayne Dobson rote: > > >> > > >> Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that most Mugloites have faded > > >> away into oblivion? > > > --- > > > The group web site is at http://muglo.ca/Welcome_to_Muglo.html > > > Manage your account options at //www.freelists.org/list/muglo > > > > --- > > The group web site is at http://muglo.ca/Welcome_to_Muglo.html > > Manage your account options at //www.freelists.org/list/muglo > --- > The group web site is at http://muglo.ca/Welcome_to_Muglo.html > Manage your account options at //www.freelists.org/list/muglo > > > > -- > Barry Takayesu > Prestige Print & Graphics > 10592 Wellington Rd > St.Thomas, ON N5P 3T1 > (519) 631-8800 (519) 878-3210 > barryt99@xxxxxxxxx >