[GeoStL] Re: geocaching Digest V2 #22
- From: "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 05:41:37 -0600
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This sounds like a group cache.. hehehehe :-)
I think you should log this if you actually saw the container. I have thought
long and hard about this and most people are right. If a person is honest then
they will stick to their ethics and a log should be in order. If a person is
just out there to rack up numbers, then they will do that regardless.
I would log it as a find. I would not go back. If no one responds to the
location to move it and interest drops off, then perhaps it will be archived
anyways..
Cache on!
Mike
The Brawny Bear
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Michael Chambers <michaelc@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:11:04 -0600
>-
>Various members wrote:
>
>>
>>I think it's up to the cache owner to say if you can log it. What cache was
>>it?
>>T.P.&M.
>>
>>if I don't sign the log I don't log it as a find. ....... If the cache is in
>>a dangerous spot I do think the owner should be contacted.
>>Elkie
>>
>>Logging the find is up to you .... sounds like you legitamately found it to
>>me. Please let the owner know of the situation, he might want to remove it.
>> I would want to know about it before going there.
>>Georgie
>>
>>I'd like to know which cache it is so I can avoid going there. I'd say go
>>ahead and log it just as you would do some of the other public caches like
>>those in the zoo. It's definitly one I would not go to.
>>Barramus
>>
>>IMHO, if you found it (and you did) you should log it. I'd rather have
>>someone do what you did than to log it and show others where the cache is.
>>If it is not a big deal to come back when you can sign it, you should. I see
>>no problem with logging it if you actually spot the container.
>>
>>Jim Bensman
>>
>>........you could have people logging caches that they thought they saw when
>>in actuality it was never near. There is no way to ever know if they truly
>>found the cache. I think that that is part of the challenge. To remove this
>>would jeopardize the integrity of the game. ......I feel that you could
>>return with someone to finish the cache.
>>Mike
>>
>>......you have asked a very good question that has concerned me. Recently
>>there was a cache that I went to twice ( Jon's First Cache). I did not log it
>>as a find, because I did not retrieve it and sign the log. I have also read
>>posts that say they only found part 1 of a multi-cache, but chose to log it
>>anyway, because they felt part 2 was missing? .......others have posted
>>finds, but said they didn't have a pen to sign the log. I think each person
>>has to set their own standards and live with it. I am only competing with
>>myself.
>>John R -
>>
>>The kind of people who would log a cache as you suggest will do it anyway and
>>they would not ask a group for advice. I don't log caches I don't sign or
>>find physically but if the situation arose where it was dangerous to log it
>>as is suggested in the previous email and the cache had been seen just not
>>removed and logged in I would say "Yes go ahead and log a find".
>>Dan (Thunder)
>>
>>I have had to go back to several caches more than once to make it "right".
>>gln
>>
>>I bet it is that stinking Party Cove cache. I just know it is.
>>gln
>>
>>Ya can't "reply" while on digest mode.
>>Barramus
>>
>Very excellent responses to my request for your advise. I thank you all
>for your thoughts. I'll try to respond briefly.
>I did immediately email the cache owner with a copy of my note to the
>List, and with a complete detailed description of the exact cache
>location, so he (or she) could confirm that I did indeed find it. I
>also asked them to move it. And yes, I actually did see the cache
>itself. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have posed the question with you all.
> I too went back twice to Jon's First, and know that I found its hiding
>place, but I couldn't reach it either, so I didn't log it - and I won't.
> Integrity and a strong code of personal ethics are extremely important
>to me. If the owner contacts me and agrees that I did find it, I'll
>think about logging it. There's a good chance that I'll go back (mayby
>early on a cold morning - with my brother with me) to make another
>attempt to actually log it, but I'll feel much better about that if the
>owner moves it to a safer location. At first, I had no intention of
>naming the cache, but several people have asked which one it is - and
>have expressed a concern to avoid it, so I have decided to let you all
>know that it is indeed the Carondelet cache (Sorry Glen, it's not "that
>stinking Party Cove cache".). Oh! And yes, Barramus, you can "reply"
>while on digest mode. It just takes a lot of considerate editing to
>eliminate all the repetive BS.
>
>Thanks again,
>Leanman (Mike Chambers)
>
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