- Mike's comment, "I guess it was up to the individual" is the point i was = trying to make. Do what feels right. Nancy- it's not about the nu= mbers was a reference to the webpage of the same name. I believe we all v= acillate on this. I know that I publicly declare; that to me, the journey= is the reward, not the scorecard =E2=80=A6 yet, i have on occasion been = vested in a race with other chachers comparingstats daily, all the while= we would be telling each other we're notcompeting. ------ O= riginal Message ------ Received: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:34:56 PM EDT From: "Mike Griffin" To: Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Geocaching Ethics Question - Bac= k in the day, we use to have event caches that were set up for the event.= These were placed with all the rules as a regular cache. Therefore, = they were .1 mile from the next cache, etc... We didn't want to leave= these as permanent for various reasons. However, those that wanted t= o log them, did so. Nothing wrong in logging a cache that you sign th= e log book for and as long as it follows all the guidelines of GC.COM= =2E Well, people starting abusing it. I believe Geowoodstock was the = first place where you could log a person walking around that had a GC= # on their shirt, car, ear rigns, etc.. It became even more abusive = across the country so we banned it. Temp Caches were designed to = enhance an event. Not stack numbers. If I walked 20 miles to get 30 t= emp caches, I felt I could log them. Others wouldn't log unless they = had a GC number assigned to them. I guess it was up to the individual= =2E Mike Tired of Spam?? Here's your solution.. S= ee: http://www.spamarrest.com/affl?4001050 "Guys, the red thingy = is heading for the green thingy. I think the green thingy is us." - Guy, from Galaxy Quest... ----- Original Message ----- From: "= cunning linguist" <_rnx_@xxxxxxx> To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Ge= ocaching Ethics Question - The whole idea of dropping= and retrieving TBs and coins "for milage" is foofooed but generally = accepted. Personally I've never understood it and =3D would only = drop a bug if i left it behind. How about distributing printed pages=3D of coins at events for people to discover even when they never act= ually touc=3D hed or saw the coin?? but i feel we're spli= tting hairs ... so ... Can someone tell me the story of Steve's L= OTEC cache? http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=3D= 3DGCKQ54&log=3D3Dy And how did so many people log GCKAH3 50+ = times in one day? Some of them =3D i recognize as SLAGA Leadershi= p Team and premier area cachers. I know their=3D logs say MOGA #1= Moga #2 etc, but, if all these MOGA caches were not published=3D the= n there seems to be an appearance of impropriety. I know it's= not a competition, and it's not about the numbers, and i've contradi= cted my previous post on this thread, but we seem to be discussin=3D = g honour among thieves .... ------ Original Message ------ Received: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:08:58 PM EDT From: "Robert Oelschlaeg= er" To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject= : [GeoStL] Re: Geocaching Ethics Question - "Adam, wouldn't y= ou like to have a taste of this luscious-looking apple?"=3D -- I'= m sure the story went something like that. I agree with Kevin. I've b= een deleting this thread when it popped up once=3D , twice and th= en a third time. The TBs weren't in the caches, they can't be log= ged as having been there (unless your name is Foo Foo the Snoo). = That's my 2=3DA2 worth. It's a shame that they went all that = distance and can only log having visited a virtual cache, but that's = what happens sometimes :-( Bob (aka roelsch) On 3/16/07, = kolaughlin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > = >- >If It was me, I log them all in the v-cache and then log = them all out. >That >the only cache you did. Just my thou= ght. You just have to hate those tr=3D ips >where you can't g= et your geocaching in, dont ya? :) Kevin K-TEAM >----- Original M= essage ----- >From: fourfeld@xxxxxxx >To: geocaching@free= lists.org >Sent: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:25:30 -0400 >Subject= : [GeoStL] Geocaching Ethics Question > >- >I'm fi= shing for opinions. > >Cathy and I have just returned from= a cruise around the southern tip of=3D >SouthAmerica. I had = some bugs and coins with me that I wanted to trade,=3D or >at= least get them some mileage. The geocaching turned out to be a big &g= t; disappointment. We visited four countries and travelled over 4000 naut= i=3D cal >miles over fourteen days, and in all that time we w= ere only able to log=3D >one >virtual cache. The loca= tiions of the caches in relation to our ports of=3D >call >just weren't conducive to geocaching. (As a side note, we substitut= ed t=3D he >time we would have spent looking for caches with = time spent looking for=3D >our >luggage. The airlines= lost it and it didn't catch up with us until day >nine >= of the cruise.) > >My question is this.... Would it be acc= eptable to log the bugs and coin=3D s >in >and out of= the cache nearest to our ports of call so that they can get >cre= ditfor the miles traveled even though I did not find the caches. In &= gt; some >cases the closest I got to a cache was 20 or 30 miles. = Naturally I woul=3D d >log >these as a note and would= not claim a find for myself. > >Let me know what you thin= k. >Mark >Sniper1 > > >____________= ___________________________________________________________=3D _ = >AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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