[GeoStL] Re: Burying Caches

  • From: "Jim Bensman" <jbensman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:17:56 -0500

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It seems to me the concern should be what this rule is trying to accomplish
instead of if there are technicalities to get around the intent of the rule.
Is not this rule trying to prevent the area around the cache from being
messed up?  Should not whether or not the area is likely to be messed up be
the guiding concern instead of if there is a way to technically get around
the intent of the rule?

Notwithstanding the ethical issue of messing up and abusing the land, there
is the issue of we already have too many land managers banning us.  We do
not need to be creating examples for them to cite to ban us.

Certainly there are ways one could bury a cache and not have environmental
damage issues. For example, the cache page could have given a distance and
direction from an easy to find spot.  That way mugglers would not find it
and there would not be environmental damage from searching for it with leaf
blowers, shovels, etc.  

Should not an overriding consideration be what people are likely to do to
try to find the cache?  If significant environmental damage is being caused
by people hunting for a cache, should not it be shut down until a means to
prevent the problem (such as clearer directions) is implemented?  If not,
are we providing excuses for geocaching to be banned in more places?

There are also indirect effects.  If cachers learn that the rule on burying
caches can be bent, when they cannot find a cache, they may start digging or
using a leaf blower.  

I think the geocaching community needs to do much more or providing more
information on how to search for caches and place caches without causing
environmental problems. Something like the leave no trace program. If we
don't we will get banned in more and more places.

Glenn, I hope you and the other administrators will err on the side of
caution when there are reports of problems and concerns about a cache.

Jim Bensman
"Nature Bats Last" 

--- Glenn <Glenn@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  
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With permission you can bury anything you want.  Also depends on your

definition of buried.  I will allow anything that is doable.


At 07:35 PM 5/31/2005, J.A. Terranson wrote:

    
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On Tue, 31 May 2005, Dan Eubanks wrote:

      
Why do they keep saying that caches are "buried"?
        
Why not - certain admins will allow this you know ;-/

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Yours,

J.A. Terranson
sysadmin@xxxxxxx
0xBD4A95BF



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