[bksvol-discuss] Re: Quick processing of my book
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 14:57:08 -0700 (PDT)
Thank you, Sarah. That is very helpful, and I shall
save this in case I forget.
Cindy
-- Sarah Van Oosterwijck <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> The following is only my suggestion, Cindy.
>
> I would remove headers that are only repeating the
> book title and author,
> but leave in ones that provide other information.
> Repeating chapter titles
> in non-fiction books are also basically useless
> unless the real chapter
> title is missing. It would be best to either remove
> the running header in
> that case, or leave it and add the same header to
> the top of the page on
> which the new chapter begins. The header often does
> not exist there, and
> placing it above the real chapter heading will
> preserve the chapter title.
>
> The headers are most useful in books where they
> identify the section you
> are reading from. I am feeling guilty about
> removing some headers that
> were section identifiers. Peer pressure rarely has
> a strong effect on me,
> but this is evidence that it did work at least once.
> ;-)
> Some example of sections would be the desert section
> in a cookbook which
> might have several chapters under it about things
> like cakes, pies, and
> cookies. You could also have a section headings
> like the four seasons with
> different information in several chapters under
> that. I'm sure you will
> recognize useful headers when you see them once you
> start to think about
> them and look for them. :-)
>
> Sarah Van Oosterwijck
> Assistive Technology Trainer
> http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:01 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Quick processing of my
> book
>
>
> > I'm getting confused again, after all this talk
> about
> > the necessit y of headings. (Sorry, Gerald -- I
> > thought after your help I understood and and was
> doing
> > what I should to preserve chapter titles and page
> > numbers).Should I, henceforth, *not* delete
> headers if
> > they're present, even when the headers are the
> book
> > title and/or author's name? Or is it only whenthe
> > headers is a chapter title tht I should leave it
> in?
> > (I don't think I've ever seen any of those)
> > Should I move the page number below the header or
> > leave it on the same line so the header won't be
> > stripped--and drop both down a line space as
> Pratik
> > and Gerald suggested quite some time ago? I won'
> put
> > back in those that have already been taken out,
> > though, of the books I'm working on. I want to
> know
> > for the future.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> > --- Mike Pietruk <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> I have no doubt that the stripper properly
> prepares
> >> the book for use and
> >> navigation with the Daisy player as it was
> designed
> >> to.
> >> Similarily, the .brf copy follows standards for
> that
> >> medium.
> >> The issue, it would appear, is that a whole bunch
> of
> >> us read BookShare
> >> books on hybrid equipment or programs which may
> or
> >> may not give
> >> satisfactory results regardless of modifications
> >> made to the stripper.
> >> What is particularly disappointing with
> Charlene's
> >> book is that she took
> >> great pains in preserving headers which, using
> >> programs such as K1000,
> >> could easily be used to find categories within
> the
> >> book.
> >>
> >> What I would suggest as a solution to this
> dilemma
> >> is twofold:
> >>
> >> (1) create a 3rd category of downloadable book
> in
> >> addition to .brf and
> >> .daisy, calling it something like raw.
> >> This would be the book in a form prior to
> stripping
> >> and massaging.
> >>
> >> (2) As the stripper is essential to the
> preparation
> >> of books for Daisy
> >> players, leave suggestions for changes to it
> solely
> >> to those who actually
> >> use Daisy players.
> >>
> >> As an experiment for testing the feasibility of
> (1)
> >> outlined above, would
> >> it be possible to create a test sampling of
> titles
> >> in raw form so those of
> >> us who would prefer unstripped books could test
> >> that idea out with some
> >> actual BookShare material.
> >>
> >> I believe that a lot of us didn't fully
> understand
> >> what the stripper does
> >> because we were unfamiliar in how it was involved
> >> withDaisy production.
> >> So abolishing the stripper or not using it is
> hardly
> >> a practical solution
> >> as doing that would create its own set of
> headaches.
> >> Perhaps if a third type of book, the raw book,
> were
> >> a downloadable option,
> >> this might resolve many of the complaints.
> >>
> >> If this solution proved satisfactory, it might be
> >> the cheapest one for
> >> Benetech as it would require the least programmer
> >> time.
> >> From your end, it might also prove useful to
> survey
> >> veteran (users with
> >> the service for over 6 months) to find out what
> >> equippment they use for
> >> reading BookShare users.
> >> I, when I began with the service from almost day
> >> one, initially used the
> >> supplied Daisy player.
> >> Over time, I moved away from them to what I use
> now
> >> namely K1000 and my
> >> Book Port.
> >> I, as a matter of fact, don't even have a Daisy
> >> player on my pc system.
> >>
> >> As noted above, if you could create a page giving
> us
> >> a handful of books in
> >> their raw unstripped unprepared form, it would be
> an
> >> inexpensive test to
> >> see if "we can live without the stripper".
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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