[bksvol-discuss] Re: Quick processing of my book

  • From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:23:44 -0500

The following is only my suggestion, Cindy.

I would remove headers that are only repeating the book title and author, but leave in ones that provide other information. Repeating chapter titles in non-fiction books are also basically useless unless the real chapter title is missing. It would be best to either remove the running header in that case, or leave it and add the same header to the top of the page on which the new chapter begins. The header often does not exist there, and placing it above the real chapter heading will preserve the chapter title.

The headers are most useful in books where they identify the section you are reading from. I am feeling guilty about removing some headers that were section identifiers. Peer pressure rarely has a strong effect on me, but this is evidence that it did work at least once. ;-)
Some example of sections would be the desert section in a cookbook which might have several chapters under it about things like cakes, pies, and cookies. You could also have a section headings like the four seasons with different information in several chapters under that. I'm sure you will recognize useful headers when you see them once you start to think about them and look for them. :-)


Sarah Van Oosterwijck
Assistive Technology Trainer
http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:01 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Quick processing of my book



I'm getting confused again, after all this talk about
the necessit y of headings. (Sorry, Gerald -- I
thought after your help I understood and and was doing
what I should to preserve chapter titles and page
numbers).Should I, henceforth, *not* delete headers if
they're present, even when the headers are the book
title and/or author's name? Or is it only whenthe
headers is a chapter title tht I should leave it in?
(I don't think I've ever seen any of those)
Should I move the page number below the header or
leave it on the same line so the header won't be
stripped--and drop both down a line space as Pratik
and Gerald suggested quite some time ago?  I won' put
back in those that have already been taken out,
though, of the books I'm working on. I want to know
for the future.

Cindy


--- Mike Pietruk <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jim

I have no doubt that the stripper properly prepares
the book for use and
navigation with the Daisy player as it was designed
to.
Similarily, the .brf copy follows standards for that
medium.
The issue, it would appear, is that a whole bunch of
us read BookShare
books on hybrid equipment or programs which may or
may not give
satisfactory results regardless of modifications
made to the stripper.
What is particularly disappointing with Charlene's
book is that she took
great pains in preserving headers which, using
programs such as K1000,
could easily be used to find categories within the
book.

What I would suggest as a solution to this dilemma
is twofold:

(1)  create a 3rd category of downloadable book in
addition to .brf and
.daisy, calling it something like raw.
This would be the book in a form prior to stripping
and massaging.

(2)  As the stripper is essential to the preparation
of books for Daisy
players, leave suggestions for changes to it solely
to those who actually
use Daisy players.

As an experiment for testing the feasibility of (1)
outlined above, would
it be possible to create a test sampling of titles
in raw form so those of
us  who would prefer unstripped books could test
that idea out with some
actual BookShare material.

I believe that a lot of us didn't fully understand
what the stripper does
because we were unfamiliar in how it was involved
withDaisy production.
So abolishing the stripper or not using it is hardly
a practical solution
as doing that would create its own set of headaches.
Perhaps if a third type of book, the raw book, were
a downloadable option,
this might resolve many of the complaints.

If this solution proved satisfactory, it might be
the cheapest one for
Benetech as it would require the least programmer
time.
From your end, it might also prove useful to survey
veteran (users with
the service for over 6 months) to find out what
equippment they use for
reading BookShare users.
I, when I began with the service from almost day
one, initially used the
supplied Daisy player.
Over time, I moved away from them to what I use now
namely K1000 and my
Book Port.
I, as a matter of fact, don't even have a Daisy
player on my pc system.

As noted above, if you could create a page giving us
a handful of books in
their raw unstripped unprepared form, it would be an
inexpensive test to
see if "we can live without the stripper".

        Mike






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