[bksvol-discuss] Re: PDF Files

  • From: Scott Rains <scottr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:18:26 -0700

Hi Debby,

Let me check to be absolutely certain in this case but here are the general 
rules of thumb. There is one staff person in Collection Development through 
whom all digital files come into Bookshare, another who researches copyrights, 
still another who arranges agreements with publishers. We need to adhere to the 
general rule that "a submission from a volunteer must originate in a scan from 
a physical book" but when opportunities like this arise let me know in an 
email. Publishing rights involve both author and publisher so an agreement with 
the publisher is frequently the most efficient way to address these cases.

I will let the list know when I have an answer to this.

Scott Rains
Benetech Fellow, Bookshare Volunteer Department
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Debby Franson [the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:41 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: PDF Files

Hi Scott and everyone!

A friend of mine has two books in electronic form from authors she knows
who have given her permission to share their books with Bookshare.  These
files, I believe are in doc files, at present.  What would the procedure be
to share them, since they are not scans?  She knows that the files that are
submitted to Bookshare are rtf files, because she is a Bookshare member who
is also a volunteer, but I don't think she has submitted any of the books
she is scanning.

I suggested she write about the authors' books, so she may have done so by
now.  I had advised her not to just submit them after converting the doc
files to rtf, since I didn't know the policy even when an author had given
permission to share..

Debby

At 12:33 PM 8/14/2010, Scott Rains wrote
>Hi Folks,
>
>I am not sure if I understand the origin of this question, whether it
>comes from a Bookshare volunteer, or if the origin of the .pdf file has
>been determined but let me clarify our constraints as Bookshare volunteers.
>
>The Chafee Amendment allows for those with print disabilities to produce
>and own digital copies of print materials. The reasoning is that the print
>format is not usable by someone with a print disability. Bookshare is an
>agent entity recognized as legitimately producing such materials as a
>service to individuals with print disabilities and thus we are subject to
>the same law. When we receive digital copies of books that are not scanned
>from a print version, such as ePub or .pdf, we do so legitimately only
>when we receive them from a carefully defined set of sources such as the
>original publisher.
>
>All our volunteer-supplied material must originate from the print version.
>We do not accept files from volunteers that are not scans from print
>(Point #7 in the Bookshare.org Volunteer Agreement specifies the process
>available for certain limited exceptions.) If the person asking this
>question is intending to donate to Bookshare please inform them that their
>offer will not be accepted.
>
>Because the question posted is an issue of such consequence because of the
>unanswered questions about the source of the .pdf file let me restate
>verbatim the fourth point in the Bookshare.org Volunteer Agreement signed
>by every Bookshare Volunteer:
>
>4.      There are consequences for copyright violations, including
>termination of my account.
>
>I acknowledge that Bookshare.org inserts digital fingerprints (both
>obvious and hidden) in the Accessible Media I download, to track copyright
>violations.  I agree to not remove those fingerprints.  If a copyright
>violation occurs that is traced to me, Bookshare.org will discontinue my
>account.  I acknowledge that violations of copyright law and the terms of
>this agreement may subject me and other people committing such violations
>to civil and criminal liability, and that Bookshare.org will cooperate
>with copyright holders on investigations of such violations.  If I violate
>the terms of this agreement, Bookshare.org may unilaterally and
>immediately terminate this agreement by written or email notice to me.
>
>The Bookshare Volunteer Agreement is downloadable here;
>
>www.bookshare.org/assets/docs/Volunteer_Agreement_2008.doc
>
>Scott Rains
>Benetech Fellow, Bookshare Volunteer Department
>________________________________________
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Melissa Smith
>[mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 9:07 AM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: PDF Files
>
>My understanding is that the publisher donated books come in epub format
>and not pdf. I'm wondering if he'd gotten a pdf from another site and
>was wanting to donate it to Bookshare. I don't believe that this is
>acceptable, though.
>
>Melissa Smith
>
>On 8/14/2010 10:48 AM, Cindy Ray wrote:
> > A friend of mine asked me about this. I was a little surprised to have
> the question; that individual doesn't regularly volunteer. Not sure why
> the individual would even have been doing this, but I think he has his
> answer now. Thank you.
> > Cindy Lou
> >
> > On Aug 14, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Mayrie ReNae wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hi Cindy,
> >>
> >> As far as I know, no one is proofreading pdf files from any
> publisher.  Can
> >> you elaborate, please?  Where are people getting pdf files to
> proofread?  I
> >> believe that as things stand, what we submit for addition to the Bookshare
> >> collection needs to be a scanned book.  Please elaborate on what you're
> >> asking, will you?
> >>
> >> As far as how one would proofread a book without paragraph marks, I'd say
> >> it'd be best to reject such a submission.  It would take less work to
> rescan
> >> the book than it would be to compare an OCRed copy to the hard copy to
> >> insert paragraph marks.  Just my opinion though.
> >>
> >> Mayrie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 6:14 AM
> >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] PDF Files
> >>
> >> I don'tknow if anyone saw this message or if it even got there.
> Question is
> >> this: the PDF files from some publishers come out one paragraph. How do we
> >> proofread those? Inquiring minds want  know. I, personally, didn't know we
> >> did. *smile* Someone asked me if it had come up before on this list.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cindy Lou Ray
> >> Each day is a new adventure
> >>
> >>
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