[bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?

  • From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:09:18 -0600

That's entirely possible Prat.  How do we check for 'section breaks' in MS 
Word / JFW?  G.


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were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who 
questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being wise."
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There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their page 
numbers.  Not all books have correct page breaks.  I just downloaded two 
books for comparison purposes.  One had no hard page breaks, the other, 
had some hard page breaks and other soft breaks.  Guido, the version you 
downloaded, how many sections does Word report having in that file?  I 
suspect that that particular book probably has the infamous section breaks 
that FR is so fond of inserting instead of hard page breaks.  That 
probably is the reason why Kurzweil 1000 decided not to like those pages 
too.
 
Prat
 
 
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The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the 
first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some hard 
page breaks between chapters).  As I understand it, the bookshare software 
does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think soft page 
breaks exist in the file, I think word just puts them in on the fly).

Misha
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Hi Guido,
Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does it
look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
character codes for the page breaks?

Jim

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All,  I have just downloaded:


                  1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,


from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format.  The book contains
a valid copyright notice, an ISBN,  specifies that this is a mass market
edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport
page breaks of some kind.    MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,   while
Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages.  I suspect that the document
may not use standard page breaks for pagination.  If this were the case,
              some editors may not detect page breaks at all.


                                  Guido



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were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being wise."
[David Poyer, The Command]


 
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Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
submitting them.  The Baen books I have read none of them had page breaks
or
page numbers and no Copyright info included.

Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?

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