[bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
- From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
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I wonder if we can glean the information from the online version of the book.
I haven’t looked too hard but seems like I recall that there is a version
online where one can click on a page at a time. I’ll do some checking.
Prat
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JFW reports appropriate section numbers upon ins-pagedown. These seem however
to be based on the currently loaded template rather than on any particular
control codes found in the document. We could physically insert a page break
at each spot following a ctrl-pagedown, but I fear that may not match
necessarily the print copy. Another way may be to scan the paperback anyhow,
and then to use it only to locate appropriate page break which we would then
insert in the publisher-perfect etext.
Interesting problem.
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Hi Guido,
Word 2007 reports Section X of Y on the status bar if there are multiple
sections in a file. I don’t recall 2003 reporting that info. But, try
Insert+PGDN (or JAWS+Page down). I must say Word 2007 is a lot better at
reporting relevant info. If you don’t find that info, try doing a global
replace for ^b with ^m and see what’s reported. If word manages to replace
multiple occurrences, you can safely assume that it was the case. In any case,
it doesn’t hirt to replace section breaks with hard page breaks. If you do
have multiple occurrences and manage to replace them, save the file and reopen
it in Kurzweil 1000. Now Kurzweil 1000 should reportcorrect number of pages.
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That's entirely possible Prat. How do we check for 'section breaks' in MS Word
/ JFW? G.
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There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their page numbers.
Not all books have correct page breaks. I just downloaded two books for
comparison purposes. One had no hard page breaks, the other, had some hard
page breaks and other soft breaks. Guido, the version you downloaded, how many
sections does Word report having in that file? I suspect that that particular
book probably has the infamous section breaks that FR is so fond of inserting
instead of hard page breaks. That probably is the reason why Kurzweil 1000
decided not to like those pages too.
Prat
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The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the first
chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some hard page
breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the bookshare software does not
recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think soft page breaks exist in
the file, I think word just puts them in on the fly).
Misha
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Hi Guido,
Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does it
look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
character codes for the page breaks?
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All, I have just downloaded:
1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book contains
a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market
edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport
page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages, while
Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document
may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case,
some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
Guido
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Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page breaks
or
page numbers and no Copyright info included.
Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
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