[AR] Re: Lunar GPS navigation.

  • From: David McMillan <skyefire@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 08:06:50 -0500


On 7/30/2019 5:32 PM, Henry Spencer wrote:

There's no reason why a GPS-type system wouldn't work in lunar orbit, given about the same number of satellites as the Navstar constellation for Earth (it doesn't work without four satellites simultaneously visible, and preferably more).  If you want to use a smaller number of satellites, you can reinvent Geostar, which requires that the ground terminals transmit as well as receive (GPS is receive-only because of its military origins), and can do low-bandwidth messaging too.  If you can settle for occasional position updates rather than fresh positions every second, you *might* be able to reinvent Transit, which will give you a fairly precise position from a single pass of a single satellite, although it might not work quite as well on a world rotating as slowly as the Moon.

    How much would any of these constellation concepts have to rely on ground stations for ephemeris updates?  I know that GPS and Galileo rely heavily on ground stations constantly updating the clocks on every satellite, to the point that in the event of a Zombie Apocalypse both constellations would degrade pretty rapidly (keep your paper maps handy, preppers!).  And given how unstable Lunar orbits tend to be, my off-the-cuff guess is that a Lunar GPS would be very likely to need regular position/velocity updates from some trustworthy ground reference, in addition to clock updates.  And given the distances involved, it would seem like Lunar ground stations would work better than ones based on Earth or in Earth orbit.


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