Hi, I think it just ignores the hints specified by the duhevelopers. The recursive SQLs which are hinted (some RULE !!) will not be ignored. Regards, Gopal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Khedr, Waleed" <Waleed.Khedr@xxxxxxx> To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: RE: oracle can ignore hints > This would be nice if it causes Oracle itself to ignore its own hints > specified in the kernel that take care of execution plans, PQ, etc :) > > Waleed > > -----Original Message----- > From: K Gopalakrishnan [mailto:kaygopal@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thu 3/4/2004 11:41 PM > To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: > Subject: Re: oracle can ignore hints > > > > Jonathan: > > It is version dependent. I am sure you like that. > BTW starting from 10g you can ask oracle to ignore the hints by setting an > underscore parameter. > > Regards, > Gopal > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Lewis" <jonathan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:09 AM > Subject: Re: oracle can ignore hints > > > > > > No. > > > > The intent is that they should be absolute directives; > > but there are conditions that put hints out of context, > > which means they become irrelevant. > > > > If it can happen at all, it can be hinted. > > > > Regards > > > > Jonathan Lewis > > http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk > <https://access0.fidelity.com/,DanaInfo=www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk+> > > > > The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ > > http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html > <https://access0.fidelity.com/faq/ind_faq.html,DanaInfo=www.jlcomp.demon.co. > uk+> > > > > March 2004 Hotsos Symposium - The Burden of Proof > > Dynamic Sampling - an investigation > > March 2004 Charlotte OUG (www.cltoug.org) CBO Tutorial > > April 2004 Iceland > > June 2004 UK - Optimising Oracle Seminar > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "April Wells" <AWells@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 7:44 PM > > Subject: RE: oracle can ignore hints > > > > > > : > > : Yep, they are 'friendly suggestions' that the CBO can simply choose to > > : ignore if it thinks it knows better than you. > > : > > : We have one query that we have hinted, we have computed statistics, we > > have > > : built histograms, we have jumped through hoops... the only way to force > it > > : to use an index is to Never analyze that index and to hope, then, that > the > > : CBO makes the right assumptions. > > : > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > <https://access0.fidelity.com/,DanaInfo=www.orafaq.com+> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > > -- > > Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > <https://access0.fidelity.com/archives/oracle-l/,DanaInfo=www.freelists.org+ > > > > FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > <https://access0.fidelity.com/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html,DanaInfo=www.freel > ists.org+> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > <https://access0.fidelity.com/,DanaInfo=www.orafaq.com+> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > -- > Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > <https://access0.fidelity.com/archives/oracle-l/,DanaInfo=www.freelists.org+ > > > FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > <https://access0.fidelity.com/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html,DanaInfo=www.freel > ists.org+> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------