Great to hear that we have been allowed to participate in the Oracle Database Firewall beta program. Oracle bought this technology from Secerno and is now working on oracle'izing the engine, e.g. use an oracle database as the repository. If there's anything worth mentioning that is not already in the whitepapers I will write a note and post it to this forum or to my blog which I haven't started yet :- Andre Amis Services BV The Netherlands