Although I haven't played with this feature in conjunction with PeopleSoft myself, I don't think it would be a huge problem. Most of the empty tables in PeopleSoft are PeopleSoft Temporary Records - these are normal database tables used for temporary working storage by Application Engine programs. PeopleSoft (since version 8) creates many identical temporary tables and allocates different tables to different instances of the same program. It is better than multiple concurrent processes sharing the same temporary record (and before someone askes they don't use Global Temporary Tables because they are Oracle specific). You tend to get the same temporary tables reused repeatedly. You might have 10 copies of a table, but if you only ever run one instance of a program which uses that table at any one time, then normally you should only ever access the same temporary table, and you might never access the other 9. So, you only create the one physical segment. regards _________________________ David Kurtz Go-Faster Consultancy Ltd. tel: +44 (0)7771 760660 fax: +44 (0)7092 348865 mailto:david.kurtz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx web: www.go-faster.co.uk Book: PeopleSoft for the Oracle DBA: http://www.psftdba.com <http://www.psftdba.com/> DBA Blogs: PeopleSoft: http://blog.psftdba.com <http://blog.psftdba.com/> , Oracle: http://blog.go-faster.co.uk <http://blog.go-faster.co.uk/> PeopleSoft DBA Forum: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psftdba _____ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Niall Litchfield Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:56 AM To: dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: oracle-l Subject: Re: 11gR2 - what patch level? Importance: High Hi Noons I blogged about this one at http://orawin.info/blog/2010/04/25/new-features-new-defaults-new-side-effect s/ it's an init parameter to turn off/on. I'm pretty certain however since I blogged that that for the "import into SE" doesn't work case setting TRANSFORM=SEGEMENT_ATTRIBUTES:n will work should you need it. Liukely not for ps databases. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Nuno Souto <dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Thanks heaps, folks. Any way of turning off the deferred segment creation? It won't affect our DW but the Peoplesoft dbs could be a problem, with their thousands of empty tables. -- Cheers Nuno Souto in cold Sydney, Australia dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx fairlie rego wrote,on my timestamp of 5/07/2010 8:36 PM: * On all my 11.2 database I have set the RM plan to null alter system set resource_manager_plan='' scope=both sid='*'; as mentioned in http://www.oaktable.net/content/resource-manager-and-11g Without this I have seen sessions going into resmgr: cpu quantum for no reason at all. * Also seen some issues with deferred segment creation which is now TRUE by default Thanks *Fairlie Rego *Senior Oracle Consultant http://el-caro.blogspot.com/ M: +61 402 792 405 --- On *Mon, 5/7/10, Peter Hitchman /<pjhoraclel@xxxxxxxxx>/* wrote: From: Peter Hitchman <pjhoraclel@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: 11gR2 - what patch level? To: "oracle-l" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Received: Monday, 5 July, 2010, 8:01 PM Hi Nuno, Got any pointers on MOS or elsewhere about what to do about the resource manager? We do not use it, so the last thing I want is it switched on with default settings. Thanks Pete -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- Niall Litchfield Oracle DBA http://www.orawin.info