yES, i AM THE ONE WHO DID THE RECORDING OF after all. i USED A MULTITRACK RECORDER AND SANG ALL FOUR PARTS AND PLAYED ALL THE INSTRUMENTS. i HAVE DONE A GOODLY NUMBER OF HYMNS, GOSPEL SONGS, AND OTHER SELECTIONS OF COUNTRY AND '50'S ROCK. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Rudys" <mrudys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:35 AM Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design > David, that is marvelous. Are you the one who did a song called After > All? > If you are, I was blown away by the harmony and the arrangement. To the > rest of you, please forgive me for veering a little bit off topic; I just > had to ask David this question. Back to the Optacon, it is quite a > delight > when I can read titles to songs in German and I have a French album by > Edith > Piaf somewhere. I never had a chance to use it in math or in school at > all, > since I learned it so late in life. > > Marie > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DAVID PLUMLEE" <knobman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:09 PM > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design > > >> Hi, Marie, >> >> I used my Optacon quite a bit a few years ago when I was dabbling in >> Latin >> church music of the Renaissance. I even did a rendition of a French >> Christmas carol on which I used the Optacon to read the French text, >> dictated some of it on cassette, then wrote in braille a "lyric" sheet >> which >> was a hybrid between the French text and my phonetic representation of >> some >> words so that I would get some of the tricky pronunciations correct. I >> suppose I could have listened to the track and brailled a totally >> phonetic >> representation of each syllable I wanted to pronounce; but reading the >> actual French text along with the English translation gave me a better >> feel >> of how I should sing the parts (I sang a quartet with myself). >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marie Rudys" <mrudys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:07 PM >> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design >> >> >>> Hear, hear!!! I feel the same way you do, Diane. Oh, scanners are >>> nice, >>> but nothing beats being able to read in realtime and know what words >>> look >>> like in print if names and words, especially foreign ones, are so >>> unusual >>> in >>> their spelling and all. I use my good old Optacon to read record >>> sleeves >>> (Oh, yes, I do have a small vinyl collection and it is old, but I love >>> it >>> and sadly, none of it is on CD);, and I use it to read German song >>> titles, >>> and Italian titles and whatever I have around here on vinyl and CD and >>> cassettes. You bet it is very indespensable. Scanners cannot come >>> close >>> for me; it has to be the Optacon. It helped me through those long, >>> lonely >>> nights when I could not sleep too well in the battered women's shelter >>> in >>> 1995 and 1997; whenever I was not running the dishwasher or writing >>> something on my Braille 'N Speak which has since died, I was always >>> reading >>> something with my Optacon. I found a way to muffle some of the >>> vibrations >>> so people would be less bothered by it. Crazy thing is when sometimes >>> my >>> roomie worked nights at the shelter, and didn't come home until much >>> later, >>> I took the Optacon to bed with me and read. It was the closest I could >>> come >>> to reading with a flashlight. >>> >>> Marie >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dianne B. Phelps" <d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:46 PM >>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design >>> >>> >>>>I agree with you on this. I must say that I was thrilled when I acquired >>>>my >>>> first Kurzweil Personal Reader for which I scrimped and saved and got a >>>> bank >>>> loan to have. But I remember vividly thinking that there were still >>>> things >>>> I >>>> needed and wanted to see with my fingers and kind of wanted both >>>> elements >>>> within the same device. To this day, I find it more difficult to learn >>>> to >>>> do >>>> something via just hearing it unless I slow it down and listen line by >>>> line >>>> to the steps I need to take. There was just something about that put >>>> your >>>> hands on it in real time that made total sense to me along with the >>>> help >>>> of >>>> the OCR. The optacon is where I can really "SEE" it and where it really >>>> gets >>>> to my stunted brain. >>>> >>>> Dianne >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of John Huffman >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:51 AM >>>> To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design >>>> >>>> Hi, Catherine and All, >>>> >>>> It's fine to "think outside the box" in terms of developing a NEW >>>> Optacon. >>>> After all, technology has advanced much since 1970, and it may be >>>> possible >>>> to devise new ways to accomplish old tasks which would never occur to >>>> us >>>> non-wizards. >>>> >>>> But I feel very strongly that in doing this the Optacon's primary >>>> purpose, >>>> READING print in real time, should remain the primary goal of all such >>>> redesign projects. That is a niche that critically needs to be kept >>>> filled >>>> by an Optacon or something very much like it. >>>> >>>> Cheers, JH >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Catherine Thomas" <braille@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:40 AM >>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design >>>> >>>> >>>>> Just as with scanners, there are some excellent braille translation >>>>> programs. If you need to read print documents and covert them to >>>>> braille >>>>> that is the method to use. >>>>> The Optacon reads print as print--no re-interpretation. Because the >>>>> Optacon reads print as print, we can read all sorts of non-standard >>>>> things >>>>> including lettering imposed on pictures. Lots of mail these days comes >>>>> with logos. We may not know all the details of what the logo contains >>>>> but >>>>> we can often if we encounter the same thing a few times, recognize the >>>>> shape. Again, reading print as print in real time is the Optacon's >>>>> primary >>>>> purpose. >>>>> Catherine >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>>> -Catherine Thomas >>>>> braille@xxxxxxxxx / >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> --- >>>>> to view the list archives, go to: >>>>> >>>>> www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: >>>>> >>>>> optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes) in the message subject. >>>>> >>>>> Tell your friends about the list. 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They can subscribe by sending a >>> message >>> to: >>> >>> optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the >>> quotes) in the message subject. >>> >> >> to view the list archives, go to: >> >> www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l >> >> To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: >> >> optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the message subject. >> >> Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a >> message >> to: >> >> optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the message subject. >> > > to view the list archives, go to: > > www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l > > To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: > > optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the > quotes) in the message subject. > > Tell your friends about the list. 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