Don: It doesn't look like what you told me will work. I went to www.freelists.org and found "signup" but it wanted me to start a list and I don't want to start a list. I looked at some of the help documentation and it said to go to my list's web page, but when I attempted that, it said that optacon-l had no web page. Since you're the administrator, you can probably do anything you want to do, but as a list user, I can't. I just wanted to figure out how to use the archives and so far I haven't found out. Since this list is new and I'm sure others want this info too, I'd appreciate your help. Gail To unsubscribe at eny time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.