Very interesting. I did not know this brand and this device.
Thank you.
Marco
Il giorno 18 mar 2020, alle ore 01:59, Noel Runyan
<noel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ha scritto:
Marco,
Orbit is the USA company that has been producing
the inexpensive Orbit 20 notetaker that has a 20 cell braille line.
It uses very small electromagnetic motors to raise the dots.
The Graphiti is also made by Orbit and uses
electromagnetic motors that can raise dots to different heights.
Unfortunately, their actuator technology has not
been small enough to pack into the size of the
Optacon's fingertip display. They have also
indicated that the dots could not be actuated
fast enough to supply the 250 hertz vibration
rate that was found optimal for an Optacon-style image display.
Cordially,
Noel
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At 05:30 PM 3/17/2020, Marco Cervi wrote:
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Dan,
I do not know this brand, Orbit Research.
Could you please tell us more about this factory and this Graphiti display?
Which type of display? Is it a magnifier or a tactile one?
Thank you.
Marco
Il giorno 17 mar 2020, alle ore 23:03, dan.tevelde@xxxxxxxxxxx ha scritto:his project seemed to be short on details. The
I'm sure Charles Pond had good intentions but
good news is that there are technologies which
are available right now which could be
re-purposed for a new optacon. Orbit Research
just introduced their graphics display called
the Graphiti. It costs $15,000 but it has a
large display matrix which maybe could be
scaled down to make it more affordable. I
suppose someone could contact them and see if
they would be interested in working with the
group. Orbit Research also introduced two new
low-cost Braille displays at CSUN. The fact
that they have developed newer display
technology which is already available indicates
that maybe they could be persuaded to work with us.
unless we can't find any company who would be
I don't see a reason to reinvent the wheel
willing to modify their technology to meet our
needs. Someone more important than I should
send Orbit Research an e-mail asking them if
they would like to start a discussion. If they
are interested, then someone would need to
prepare a nice professionally-looking
presentation. The presentation could be a
short brochure containing links to existing
YouTube videos about the optacon. It would
also be helpful if a current optacon user could
make a YouTube video. Someone might be able to get sighted assistance.
have an optacon but need to get it looked at
I'm not in a position to make any videos. I
before I can even try using it. I also forgot
the training I had years ago when I was in high
school. Right now I'm concentrating on finding a new job by June.
<optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Marco Cervi
Dan
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Hello everybody,
Maybe David Godfrey in UK could help, too.
I believe he is in this list, he fixed my
suggest some idea for a possible new project.
MarcoMilton Ota <mota1252@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ha scritto:
Il giorno 13 mar 2020, alle ore 14:01,
telling that they had experienced the model, hands on.
Hello Optacon Users:
I believe Charles Pond has passed away. I don't know where anyone can
get theinformation on his research.
If this person is interested in helping developing a 21st Centry
Optacon, I suggest that the person talk story with Richard Oehm.
Remember, he is getting old and we don't know how much longer he will
be around with the knowledge about the inside of an Optacon. Richard
Oehm at one time worked for Telesensory Systems, Inc. when the Optacon
was first developed with Jim Bliss and help from Stanford University
Enginering students.
,
Original message:
Caterina,
Sounds interesting if anyone wants to consider the development of a
new Optacon. Yes, Charles Pond used to tell us inthusiastically about
his project. From what he described near the end of his time, was
that the Optacon would be rather close to completion. Yet, far as I
got him, it seemed noone ever saw the actual prototype he was working
on. At least I can't remember anyone
anything further what that all would include.
In one of the last messages we saw from Charles, he informed us that
he had told someone in his circle, what to do about the whole
project. But he never seemed to tell
his name, and see what you can get out of that.Noone ever have followed up on the project, if we are to judge from
the trafic on this list.
Summing it all up, what we are left with from Charles' project, seems
to be the messages he left on the list. There would be a few of them,
and they tended to be rather technical every now and then. He said
that it would all be there, his whole description of the project. But
you will need to read through an untold amount of listings, and
derive the technical essense of it. At the end of each message posted
on the list, you will find the link to the list archives. I suggest
you scrolling the archives, searching for
attempting to design a new model.
Then again, we had a few discussions, as to what a new Optacon
desirably should be like. These too would be in the archives. If you
don't mind me saying so, I just am not all that sure the requirements
we had for an updated Optacon, a handful years ago, would still apply.
Have a feeling that even the most intense Optacon user, might see his
or her daily activities slightly different today. That is, electronic
devices have become more frequent, and more services are moving out
of the paper-world, and into the electronics. At least in some parts
of the world. The potential new user of an Optacon, will come from
such already existing devices, and may not want an Optacon that
basically does what they already can get from their cell phone,
tablet or computer. Things like audio and recording capabilities,
just to mention a few. Who knows, maybe the very best project, would
be to re-invent the Optacon as it is, a completely analog device,
that leaves all the thinking to the human brain.
Charles along with a couple of other knowledgeable people, gave us
quite a number of informations as to the history of the Optacon's
development, from the early ages, and how and why it ended up the
design it stands currently. The list archives will also hold info
about what challenges were overcome when
how serious they are about getting the development going.From memory, Charles told how he had been struggling to find a way to
protect the reading display from dust and dirt; testing different
materials that would provide the right tactile feeling, as well as
the needed flexibility and durability. He further informed about the
camera, again from memory, I think he said the model he had landed on
was the size and shape of a 4-knobbed lego brick.
As stated, the postings used to get rather technical, and not always
totally logical in their layout. And specially so, if the ones you
have in mind for a new project, would happen not to be natively
English-speaking. Guess the best thing would be to read through the
postings, and have the main-points arranged in a sorted order,
leaving out all the messy blah-blah. Smiles.
So my final suggestion would be, to leave the people you have in mind
the chance of browsing the list archives. Then let them join the
list, asking their questions to the community. Whoever is still on
the list, might have a portion of ideas and feedback, once we know
what they need for info. Hard to give too much, long as we do not
know what technical level they are on, or
can subscribe by sending a message to:
I do wonder if one of the places Charles stranded, just as much as a
few others who have tried to get on with a new Optacon model - was
that they tend to want to do everything themselves. Projecting,
developing, testing, financing, marketing and manufacturing. Have a
hard time in imagining that to be ever possible. You, or rather they,
will need a team for all of that. Charles said he had a couple of
people assisting him, hand-crafting certain of the parts. But he
stranded when came to legal stuff, as well as the programming part of
the project. Just to illustrate why it might be a good idea to let
them know, that they might want to set up a staff on an early state,
should it ever have a chance to become reality - that new Optacon model.
David
On 3/12/2020 8:54 PM, Caterina Avoledo (Redacted sender catery81 for
DMARC) wrote:
Hello everyone,
I met someone that, maybe,, could be interested to consider to
develop a device like our beloved Optacon.
I remember that Charles Pound wanted to share his project, isn’t it?
If so, where can I find information about it? I’m sure that the
intention is to realize something usefull for visually impeared
people and not for personal profit.
Thanks to everybody can give any information.
Greetings,
Caterina
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