I like my JVC I purchased from 2001 Video... @ Southdale and Wellington. The new ones have firewire connections direct to your computer from the camcorder. Mine has a 35 gig HD but the new ones have larger, and will record @ ultra fine for 7 hours before downloading, and 37 hours @ economy, ( governed only by your power source) if you want to. There are no recordable media to buy and store. The photo part is all automatic, but is decent quality. Mine also has a compact flash card capability. ...Doug --- MUGLO information at <http://www.freewebs.com/muglo> Manage your account options at <//www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi>