- Joel, The note that cds231 had on the subject is what I sent him regarding the ones to the back of the park. If you add in the others in the front of the park, it would be a whole different story. Here is an updated list on how I would try the ones in the northern part of the park. An even better route is: Roman Ruins Roman Highways Roman Temples the go back towards Roman Highways and follow the trail that runs north/south there to the picnic table at N38 31.106 W 90 35.034. From there you can go east along a trail to Off The Chubb Trail Making New Friends, then back to the table and take the path to Leader of the Pack and while you are there you can bushwhack down the hill to Shoehorn Valley, or take the path past Leader of the Pack to Shoehorn Valley, then head back to the table. From the table, go back towards the north on the trail then cut over to Trek Through Tyson. From there follow the contours to: Valley of Shadows By The Cliff Journeys End, then drop down into the valley, and walk up the valley to Tyson Cascade, then back out & go to By the Pond. If you do it this way, you should miss most of the worst hill climbing, though around Roman Temples, you ain't got no choice. It is a rough one either way, but it is worth it. The caches near the south end of the park can be done better from the main park entrance. Anyway, that is my suggested route, unfortunately, I did these on a bunch of separate trips. Let me know if you try it this way, and how it goes. Strider ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw