[GeoStL] National Forest also needs to be clairified-the 3 finders did not bookmark a cache in a NF-RE: Re: Island cache!
- From: "Jim Bensman" <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 11:30:23 -0600
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I noticed none of the 3 who have logged they completed the challenge met the
requirement to bookmark a find for a cache in a National Forest. All 3
bookmarks were in the purchase boundary-but none were actually in the
National Forest. Most maps show the purchase boundary. The purchase
boundary is the area Congress has authorized the Forest Service to acquire
land. Only about 1/3 of the land in the purchase boundary is actually the
National Forest. Many cities are in the purchase boundary. If the caches
used so far are acceptable, any cache in the purchase boundary would have to
be accepted. So I think you should clarify if the cache actually has to be
in a National Forest. If not, you should change the requirement to the
purchase boundary.
There are two sources (both created by me with data from the Forest Service)
that show where Shawnee National Forest and Mark Twain National Forest
actually is. My Google Landownershp map:
http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/257/ My Garmin Landownership map:
http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/180/ Both will allow you to easily
determine if the cache is in a National Forest. You can also download 24K
Quads with the National Forest identified on it. But my maps are much
easier.
Maybe the 3 who have logged a find for the challenge have found one that
actually is in a National Forest, but the ones they used on their bookmark
list are not in a National Forest.
Jim Bensman
"Nature Bats Last"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Barnes
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 9:44 AM
> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Island cache!
>
> -
> Thanks for the opportunity to clarify this item. I originally intended
> to use Google Maps to define an island. But I found that many islands
> that can legitimately be considered an island such as Howell Island,
> show as connected to the main land on Google. So, as stated in my
> note on the cache page on Nov. 14, I will consider Google Maps but
> will also include anything listed in the USGS Geographic Names
> Information Systems (GNIS). GNIS can be found at
> http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic and selecting island in the
> feature class. In the GNIS, Skinny Island is listed and therefore
> caches there will be accepted as island caches. The cache mentioned
> at the start of this thread in Macon County shows as an island in
> Google Maps so it is OK too. There are no islands listed in the GNIS
> in Macon County but as long as it shows on Google, it is OK.
>
> One other comment, if you were to get GCJ9A1 on an island in Macon
> County, it would also count as Macon County, so no need to get
> another. But if you already have an island cache and just need to add
> Macon County to your list, it sounds like there are plenty waiting to
> be found up there. But GCJ9A1sounds like fun anyway on a cold winter's
> day, so go for it and visit some SLAGA territory!
>
> Roger
>
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