[GeoStL] Re: LaBarque Creek

  • From: Laurie Elfrank <lwatermann@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:40:41 -0600

The crossing is only about 50 yards down the road. We'll have enough people 
there to carry them, for they're not that heavy. No use taking a cart that you 
would have to bring back.
 I'll drive the truck to the trail and drop off the pallets. From there it's 
only about 50 feet.
 
Laurie's better half


Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:10:32 -0800From: pandyandy3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: 
[GeoStL] Re: LaBarque CreekTo: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
I'll be there tomorrow morning.  Many thanks to John and Laurie for the answer 
to the creek crossing.  It should be a great but a little cold day, just have 
to keep moving to stay warm.
How far is the creek crossing place from the parking?  I have a two wheel hand 
truck that could help move the pallets down there.
 
JackLaurie Elfrank <lwatermann@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 


John and I went and checked it out today. We walked the road until we found a 
trail toward the creek. We took the trail to the creek, which had only 2 inches 
of water in it. We have three wooden pallets that we will bring to use as a 
temporary bridge if needed. We will not leave the pallets there, for we will 
pick them up when we leave.  The site had a map along with other information. 
We plotted the map on Google Earth and have an excellent way in with the least 
amount of climbing. It looks like we can get to GCMN2W with hardly any climbing 
at all. From there we can go to GCMN2T with an elevation of approximately 120 
feet. From there, we can walk to GCMN2X along the ridge and drop down to the 
cache. From there, we can take the valley back to the parking lot. No more than 
2.65 miles round trip. Compared to the other parking lot entrance, this looks 
much easier. We will be there, rain, snow, sleet or hail with the pallets. Hope 
to see everyone else there tomorrow! -Laurie (Denmother) and John (L Frank)

From: "Jim Bensman" <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:38:55 -0600 -  Sounds like it may be possible to get 
to it if you can get across the creek.  They have the public use ends signs 
further than the creek.  I wish I would  have know this when I tried.  But 
there still could be issues crossing the  creek and staying on the South side 
of the creek until you get to the valley  to head up.  With this info maybe 
someone could go check it out and see if  the water is low enough to cross the 
creek and follow it to the valley.  I  would volunteer but I am going on the 
caching trip tomorrow.  (Quad Cities  could get 8 inches of snow tomorrow so I 
suspect we will be going to  Evansville.)      -----Original Message-----  
From: Joel Porath [mailto:Joel.Porath@xxxxxxxxxx]   Sent: Thursday, December 
27, 2007 2:23 PM  To:
 jbensman1@xxxxxxxxxxx; Ken Drenon  Cc: John Vogel  Subject: Re: MDC WEB 
COMMENT - General    Mr. Bensman,    In order to access the area, you will need 
to go south from the parking lot  across the creek, then follow the south side 
of the creek upstream until you  get to a valley or another location to go up 
the hill.  You are correct in  that there is a small strip of land from the 
parking lot south, and although  the map might be a little misleading, the 
property line is actually the  south side of LaBarque Creek, therefore the 
actuall creek is in private  ownership.  We are working on building a trail on 
the area this winter,  perhaps with a foot bridge across the creek.  Once this 
trail is complete,  access will be made easier.  Hope you get a chance soon to 
get out to this  area again and enjoy it because you are correct, it is a neat 
place.  If you  have further questions, feel free to contact either myself or 
the Area  Manager, John Vogel, at 636-441-4554.  Thanks.
 joel    Joel W. Porath   Wildlife Regional Supervisor  Missouri Department of 
Conservation  St. Louis Regional Office  2360 Highway D  St. Charles MO 63304  
phone (636) 300-1953 ext. 226  fax (636) 926-9125  joel.porath@xxxxxxxxxx      
>>> <jbensman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> 12/23/2007 11:28 PM >>>      Topic:  General       
LaBarque Creek CA    Sounded like a really neat place.  I found the parking 
lot.  The map shows  everything south of the road as public property.  But 
there were signs  saying end of public use area on both sides of a 50 foot wide 
stip.  The  strip went up the steep hill/cliff.  I was wanting to follow the 
LaBarque  Creek to the first valley and then head up it.  The map shows you can 
do  this, but the signs said end of public use area.  So I gave up.  What's the 
 deal and how to you access the area?  Thanks.  

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