With the help of Larry (IBEW-RET) I was able to figure out the last didgets - 6 and 7. The way to figure this one out (which was pretty good) is to have N=0 then O=1, P=2, Q=3 and go up the alphabet from there to W which equals 9. Then use the numbers to figure out the coordinates by substituting them for the letters on the cache page. Now if you want to help me with GC1327V, I'd appreciate any help there! I did figure out the first sentenance is : "Welcome to Red Lake" but that's it. I can't figure out what goes on from there. HELP! Bob Pratt BBD1 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:57:09 -0500 Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Help with Puzzle Cache GCVX27 From: jimsgreene@xxxxxxxxx To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Bob, As a simple substitution puzzle, I come out with the same thing you did. As a keyboard puzzle, I'm not getting it. Assuming what we have is correct, you should be able to find it with the clues. Jim On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Bob TheCacher <cachefinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Friday I start my fishing/caching trip up to Canada. There is a puzzle cache close to where I'll be staying. It's GCVX27. I THINK I solved all but the last diget. What I get is 049 51.13X and 093 23.14X. I would appreciate anyone's help in figuring this one out! Please let me know If you have or can figure out the coordinates. Thanks, Bob Pratt BBD1 Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009