[bksvol-discuss] Re: new online scanning and proofreading manual
- From: "Larry Lumpkin" <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:56:18 -0500
Will number-row numbers navigate among heading levels?
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:29 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: new online scanning and proofreading manual
Scott,
Using Window Eyes, all the navigational short cut keys seem to work as with
HTML:
h moves between headings
s moves between lists
adding shift to those keys moves backwards
insert+tab creates a list of links
Because I navigated using the same keystrokes in the wiki as on a webpage, I
did not know that the language was different.
Lori C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Rains" <scottr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:19 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: new online scanning and proofreading manual
> Folks,
>
> We need to keep in mind that while a wiki page feels like a duck and
> quacks like a duck it doesn't taste like a duck to some software.
>
> While HTML is globally standardized wiki markup language is not. Some of
> what works for HTML pages, like navigating headings by pressing H, may not
> work at all on a wiki page.
>
> Which, if any, of these sorts of shortcuts work for you in this wiki
> document? Which screen reader are you using as you test this?
>
> Scott Rains
> Benetech Fellow, Bookshare Volunteer Department
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> [bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy B.
> [sonfire11@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:24 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: new online scanning and proofreading manual
>
> People who use screen readers can press H and jump by heading. I found it
> to
> be quite useful.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:50 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: new online scanning and proofreading manual
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I would like to add my voice to the thoughts that the layout of the manual
> is quite unpleasant to use for screen reader users.
>
> the mechanism of reading through a section and then having to return to
> the
> TOC to find the links to the next desired section is very cumbersome.
>
> I too fear that this may result in new volunteers becoming confused
> because
> of having to spend so much time navigating the manual rather than reading.
>
> I too feel it would be much more effective to have the entire manual on
> one
> site page so that any section can be reached either via a search of by
> navigating via heading and the like.
>
> I can say that if my wife were reading the manual she too would become
> frustrated and she is sighted. She finds it rather bothersome to have to
> click through multiple links just to find a specific page in a manual.
> She
> has spoken this very frustration to me many times.
>
> thanks.
>
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