Okay. ----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: fair books I rejected are back on step 1 Sue try rejecting it. That way Carrie has the second reject person for the book she needs. E. At 07:04 PM 1/27/2008, you wrote: > >Well, Carrie, I downloaded Broken Vows, Mended Hearts, and all I can >say is, if you think it doesn't need much fixing, you try to >validate it. <smiling> I am releasing it. > >Sue S. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>Carrie Karnos >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 5:49 PM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: fair books I rejected are back on step 1 > >It looked to me like it wouldn't take that much to fix the >books. If someone else downloads the books and rejects them, then >I'll remove them from consideration. (I did remove a lot of other books.) > >Carrie > >----- Original Message ---- >From: E. <<mailto:thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:01:25 PM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] fair books I rejected are back on step 1 > >I rejected several romances with "fair" ratings. They are back on >step 1 with comments by Carrie. > > >the books are >No buttons or bows >the brat >Broken Vows, Mended Hearts >Second Chances Abound (Wisconsin, Book 3) >squeeze play > >Just letting you folks know in case somebody wants to put in all the >effort it will take to fix up these mysteries. I think there is a lot >of work here though some may find it interesting to fix these up. If >you have a lot of time, here's your chance to fix up fair scans. > >E. > > >At 07:20 PM 1/20/2008, you wrote: > > >Bob, if you are experiencing disk space problems, have you > >considered getting a small external hard drive? It is possible to > >find them some weeks at about $50 at one of the major retailers > >around the nation. I usually look at > <http://salescircular.com>salescircular.com. here are > >the listings for TEXAS: > ><<http://salescircular.com/tx/computer/hdiskp.shtml>http://salescir > cular.com/tx/computer/hdiskp.shtml>http://salescircular.com/tx/computer/hdiskp.shtml > > > > > > >Guido > > > > > >Guido Dante Corona > >IBM Research, > >Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > >Austin Tx. > >Phone: 512. 838. 9735. > >Email: <mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > >Web: > <<http://www.ibm.com/able>http://www.ibm.com/able>http://www.ibm.com/able > > > >". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right > >who were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those > >who questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to > being wise." > >[David Poyer, The Command] > > > > > > > >"Bob" <<mailto:rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent by: > <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >01/20/2008 01:42 PM > >Please respond to > ><mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >To > ><<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >cc > >Subject > >[bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich > > > > > > > > > >Unfortunately, I no longer have the original document. It's a big book > >and I > >have limitted disk space. > > > >Sorry. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Pratik Patel" <<mailto:pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> > >To: <<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:43 PM > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third > >Reich > > > > > > > Ok. Whoever validated the Rise and Fall, would you please e-mail me > > > pages, > > > Roman numeral 10, 11, and 12? If you kept the book that you > > > validated, > > > this > > > should be an easy task. I'd like to compare the input with the > > > resulting > > > text. I believe I know what's happening but would like to confirm. > > > If > > > you > > > don't have the text available, please let me know and I'll > contact Claire. > > > I'll write a separate message regarding what happens with Kes > and Braille. > > > There have been more than 60 messages on this topic in the last few > > > days > > > and > > > it might just confuse a lot of people. If you have the pages, you can > > > send > > > them to me at > <mailto:pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>pratikp1@xxxxxxxxxx There is no reason > for the list to get > > > involved until I can check this out. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Pratik > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: > <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > [<mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > On Behalf Of Judy s. > > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:19 PM > > > To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the > > > Third > > > Reich > > > > > > I've seen it often, where chapters end in the middle of the page, and > > > a > > > new > > > chapter starts on the same page right below the previous > chapter's ending, > > > but I > > > can't recall ever seeing a table of contents ending and chapter 1 > > > beginning > > > on > > > the same page. > > > > > > Judy s. > > > <mailto:cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Kenneth Cross wrote: > > >> Just how many books have you validated where a chapter actually began > > >> on > > >> the same page where the book's Contents ended; i.e., Contents ends, > > >> Chapter 1 is indicated, and part of Chapter 1 begins on that same > > >> page? > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" > > > <<mailto:popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > > >> To: > > >> <<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:35 PM > > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the > > >> Third Reich > > >> > > >> > > >>> In many print books, such as the book I'm validating > > >>> now, chapters do begin in the middle of the page, > > >>> though I don't see any logical reason for it. I also > > >>> don't see a reason why chapters have to begin on an > > >>> odd-numbered, or right-hand (facing the reader) page, > > >>> requiring a blank page preceding it. This is as > > >>> annoying to the sighted reader as it probably is to a > > >>> blind reader--and a waste of paper. > > >>> > > >>> G.Cindy > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> - Chapters will begin on the same page with > > >>>> the Contents of the book, and most chapters begin in > > >>>> the middle of a page. One would think that there > > >>>> was a better way. > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob > > >>>> To: > > >>>> <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:50 PM > > >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The > > >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Okay, this is pretty strange. > > >>>> > > >>>> As I said in a previous message I was using > > >>>> k1000v10. Others with other software or other > > >>>> versions of Kurzweil may find different results. > > >>>> > > >>>> I downloaded the daisy copy of "the rise and fall > > >>>> of the third Reich" and opened it in Kurzweil. > > >>>> > > >>>> There are random page numbers that do show in the > > >>>> book, page VII for example. However, most are > > >>>> missing. But, Kurzweil is true to the book if you > > >>>> make allowances for the extra page that bookshare > > >>>> adds in on page two. For example, page 1524 in the > > >>>> book was reported on page 1525. So, to find out what > > >>>> page you are on press shift f1 in the book and > > >>>> mentally add the number 1 to whatever k1000 reports > > >>>> you are on. > > >>>> > > >>>> I checked out header avoidance in the reading > > >>>> settings, making sure that header avoidance was > > >>>> enabled. According to the manual, this should report > > >>>> page headings, but it doesn't. > > >>>> > > >>>> I swear the page numbers were there when the book > > >>>> was submitted to the bookshare administration. I can > > >>>> only conclude that the stripper took them out, or > > >>>> Kurzweil isn't reporting them. > > >>>> > > >>>> I am going to save the book in .txt format, open > > >>>> it with a good old text editor and see if page > > >>>> numbers and, I hope, page breaks are there. But, > > >>>> don't hold your breath. I'll report it if there is > > >>>> any difference. > > >>>> > > >>>> Bob > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth Cross > > >>>> To: > <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:35 PM > > >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The > > >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Will the daisy tags indicate the actual page > > >>>> number or will those tags reflect the number of > > >>>> pages, including introductory pages? Any way, I > > >>>> will try that right now. > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Kellie Hartmann > > >>>> To: > <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:51 PM > > >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The > > >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> If you get the Daisy version, you can see the > > >>>> page numbers in the Daisy tags using the Bookmark > > >>>> list commands. Otherwise, you can use a notetaker or > > >>>> bookport or book courrier if you have one, or, if > > >>>> you need to, you can use Internet Explorer to read > > >>>> the html version included with the Daisy version. > > >>>> Use the Jaws placemarker commands to make bookmarks > > >>>> or save your place, or convert the file back to txt > > >>>> with Explorer and put it back in Kurzweil. > > >>>> Kellie > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. > > >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > >>>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 > > >>>> - Release Date: 1/18/2008 7:32 PM > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is > > >>> available at > > >>> > > > <<http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm>http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm>http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm > > >>> <http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/>http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ > > >>> > > > <http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm><http://studentpages.alma.edu/%7E07jmyate/book_requests.htm>http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm > > >>> > > >>> www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > > ________ > > >>> > > >>> Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > >>> Find them fast with Yahoo! 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